Chatting about: Zeal for Justice

Let’s let Saint Paul first ask: “If our wickedness serves to show the justice of God, what shall we say? That God is unjust to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) By no means! For then how could God judge the world? (Romans 3:5-6). We often hear about God’s mercy and God’s justice. Are these two mutually exclusive? Are they contradictory?  Are they contradictory? Are they compatible? Consider the time when God appealed to the Prophet Isaiah to speak about His earthly mission: “Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he shall proclaim justice to the Gentiles” (Matthew 12:18).Consider the last question with these words from Psalm 85:11: “Love and truth will meet; justice and peace will kiss.”How can something like hell teach us that God is a God of love?  What can the Passion of Jesus teach us here? How far out of His way does God go to ensure everyone has a chance to know about eternal consequences?
And from the reflection we repeat: How far are we willing to go in our passion for justice, that is, for what is right and good? What can the Passion of Jesus teach us here?

Lisa C: Mother SM I think God’s mercy brings us to justice

Mar 29 2015, 7:16 PM

Judy K: Hi Everyone and welcome Sr. Mary Cecilia.

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Mar 29 2015, 7:17 PM

KarenP (guest): Hello everyone!

Mar 29 2015, 7:17 PM

Judy K: Mother, are my little grey cells getting weaker or are the questions getting harder?

Mar 29 2015, 7:18 PM

SrSusan (guest): Harder I think> Shall we go more lightly?

Mar 29 2015, 7:18 PM

SrSusan (guest): Hi Karen. Glad you are in!

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KarenP (guest): So far so good, Mother! PM

SrSusan (guest): Mercy is something we have all experienced though so we can start there

Mar 29 2015, 7:19 PM

Lisa C: I had to go to the Catechism re justice….it seems that we had original justice before original sin. Original justice was friendship with God ….living with Him

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Judy K: If everyone else is Ok as it is, keep on going. Perhaps I am just not in a good place this week. I am extremely fatigued and had something rather upsetting happen so my brain may not be working up to par

KarenP (guest): There have been topics that have challenged me along the way also, Judy, but being challenged at the same time by life can make it difficult. Is it something that we can pray for you about? Of course we can always just pray for you if you would rather not share. God will know what it is.

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Judy K: Mercy I can comprehend as a mitigation of consequences of sin or evil. I think that it might that I have a limited sense of the meaning of justice–I then to think of it as in the criminal justice. I looked up justice in the biblical dictionary and it said to look under righteousness. I guess I might need to reorder my conception of justice. Yes, I am all right. I just learned that sometimes people on web sites are not necessarily good decent people. But I have resolved the problem.

Mar 29 2015, 7:23 PM

Judy K: Thank you all for your concern and support.

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SrSusan (guest): God’s Love and Mercy are almost like a unity. Jesus showed us the pinnacle of Mercy in His Sacrificial death. 15, 7:26 PM

Lisa C: Yes, Judy, it seems that in Romans St. Paul talks about justification of Abraham by faith, which made him righteous :26 PM

KarenP (guest): You may remember that I have had a difficult time with my own limited definition of mercy a few weeks back. It seems to have been part of the topic every week since in some form. So I am getting to grow! But I also have thought of justice as in the criminal usage so you are not alone. We will stretch together in new understanding. 5, 7:26 PM

Judy K: On a positive note, I attended a magnificent Passion Play in a local parish. It was a wonderful beginning to the events of Holy Week. 7:27 PM

KarenP (guest): Thank you Lisa – I had not put justice and justification together but they have the same root. That may help me think more clearly.

Mar 29 2015, 7:27 PM

Carol Ann: I too tend to think of justice in the criminal sense, but too as a setting things back to rights

Mar 29 2015, 7:27 PM

Judy K: My concept of justice is giving people what is their due, whether it be rewards or punishment.

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Lisa C: Catechism: Justification is at the same time the acceptance of God’s righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ. Righteousness (or “justice”) here means the rectitude of divine love. With justification, faith, hope, and charity are poured into our hearts, and obedience to the divine will is granted us

KarenP (guest): I am thinking that in the liturgy we say “it is right and just” so those two must go together in a way I had not thought of before.

Mar 29 2015, 7:29 PM

Alice Lewis-Eckardt: When i think of mercy, i tend to ask for it during challenging times

Mar 29 2015, 7:29 PM

SrSusan (guest): We cannot begin to understand God’s justice unless we first understand sin. Sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4) and iniquity (Daniel 9:4-5; Micah 2:1; James 3:6). It embodies everything contrary to God’s holy nature and is offensive to Him. Thus, sin is a crime against God and justice demands a penalty of death and separation from Him. Jesus satisfied God’s justice if I may put it that way by taking on the punishment due to people’s sins.

Mar 29 2015, 7:30 PM

KarenP (guest): I often feel that I have been given mercy when I see how blessed I have been not to have received the punishment that I really should have received from God.

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SrSusan (guest): God’s mercy is evidenced every time we go to Confession

Judy K: I have experienced God’s mercy in that He lifted me up from a low place to something higher than I had been before.

Mar 29 2015, 7:31 PM

SrSusan (guest): I think sometimes we ourselves struggle between wanting to see “justice done” but also knowing we need to be forgiving and extend mercy

Mar 29 2015, 7:32 PM

Carol Ann: so, is God withholding justice so that we can receive mercy>

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KarenP (guest): It is the idea that justice is related that I had not understood this way before. I saw justice as someone who was wronged receiving reparation rather than it being God’s justice in His mercy. Of course, I only receive justice that way as a result of Christ’s sacrifice.

Mar 29 2015, 7:33 PM

SrSusan (guest): Often in the apparitions of the Blessed Mother she speaks of God’s justice as being “held back” perhaps by prayer, sacrifices

Mar 29 2015, 7:33 PM

Judy K: In the back of my mind I vaguely recall St. Faustina having said about that–witholding justice so as to bestow mercy.

Mar 29 2015, 7:33 PM

KarenP (guest): That puts it in the light of how I would view it.

Mar 29 2015, 7:34 PM

Carol Ann: That makes sense, as I’ve also read St. Faustina’s diary

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Lisa C: Karen, I think you are right, our sin wrongs God. Jesus gives reparation for that. Then we can be in God’s presence again. , 7:35 PM

KarenP (guest): That is much better stated than I could’ve said it, Lisa. Thank you for helping me make sense of it! 2015, 7:35 PM

Lisa C: Karen, it is what you said 5, 7:36 PM

KarenP (guest): It just sounded better when you said it. Sometimes I say things and I don’t really get it til I hear it back. 29 2015, 7:36 PM

Judy K: I think that we have a great example of Jesus’ mercy in His treatment of Peter after His resurrection. He gave Peter a chance to restore their relationship by professing his love for Jesus following his denial of Jesus. 39 PM

Judy K: The same with St. Augustine. He had led a checkered life. But he came to conversion and achiever great sanctity by the grace and mercy of Jesus.

Mar 29 2015, 7:39 PM

SrSusan (guest): That’s a good example.

KarenP (guest): Sin is a terrible thing as you stated, Mother. It is truly merciful that God continues to forgive us over and over again because of His son. PM

SrSusan (guest): I think mercy is more understandable than justice in some ways. Yet if we look at justice as the right and the good, we must fight for justice sometimes. Religious freedom for example.

Mar 29 2015, 7:40 PM

Judy K: He is extremely patient with us, giving opportunity after opportunity to reform our lives.

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SrSusan (guest): How far are we willing to go in our passion for justice, that is, for what is right and good? 9 2015, 7:41 PM

Lisa C: I think we have to go as far as it takes :42 PM

Judy K: I wonder that myself. Would I actually lay down my life for a cause of justice, such as the right to life.

Mar 29 2015, 7:42 PM

KarenP (guest): I struggle with how to carry on the fight for many things because I want to follow Jesus example, and He was so good at meeting people where they were and then bringing them to a point where they wanted salvation and asked for it.

Mar 29 2015, 7:42 PM

Ruth (guest): Hello everyone. I’m trying to catch up reading what you’ve been saying. Typing more slowly than usual, too, because my right hand is splinted post carpal tunnel surgery last Thursday.

Mar 29 2015, 7:42 PM

SrSusan (guest): Yes to me it seems we must always promote justice but have mercy on the unjust

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Carol Ann: Well, I tend to speak out when I see something is wrong, not always to the best effect. 9 2015, 7:43 PM

Judy K: Oh Ruth, I hope that you are not in too much pain. 15, 7:43 PM

Lisa C: Sometimes standing up for what is right will annoy people who do not believe what Catholics do PM

 

Mar 29 2015, 7:44 PM

KarenP (guest): I have a tough time standing up with love and acceptance of people being loved by God no matter who they are and still making the point that what they believe or are doing is not right.

Mar 29 2015, 7:44 PM

Carol Ann: I pray the surgery is successful, Ruth

29 2015, 7:44 PM

Lisa C: I got fired once for standing up for right to life 45 PM

Lisa C: People seem to think that just because they do not believe what we believe we have to do things for them based upon what they believe

Mar 29 2015, 7:45 PM

Judy K: When I see the violence that ISIS is perpetrating against Christians, indeed a barbaric taking of life, it really frightens me. Would I have the courage to persevere should such persecution come to this country.

Mar 29 2015, 7:45 PM

Carol Ann: or else we are the intolerant ones

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SrSusan (guest): I think there must be a special grace that comes to martyrs

Mar 29 2015, 7:46 PM

SrSusan (guest): At least I hope so

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Lisa C: Mother I do not think it was courageous, I could not do what was wrong…. that was not really being a martyr 7 PM

KarenP (guest): It is often amazing to me that people have to right to many things because it is considered politically correct unless it sounds like it may be a religious idea and then it is just seen as intolerance on our part. It seems to depend on how popular the issue is rather than how true to God’s laws it is.

Mar 29 2015, 7:47 PM

Lisa C: Someone wanted the morning after pill and I said that I could not prescribe it. My boss said that I should have because the patient did not have my beliefs.

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Carol Ann: it is so very hard to work in an environment that causes us to compromise our beliefs, or at least not stretch them too far, on a daily basis 9 PM

Ruth (guest): Carol, where do you work? :49 PM

Judy K: One thing I have learned from circumstances of my own life, we do not receive the strength or courage to face something until we actually need it. Such as when I had cancer. I had always said that if I were ever told that I had cancer I would tell the doctors to make me comfortable. But when it actually happened, I received the courage to go through and chemo and radiation needed. And I know that I do not have that kind of strength on my own.

Mar 29 2015, 7:50 PM

Ruth (guest): Seems that there is a growing NON — or Anti-Christian culture in this country.

Mar 29 2015, 7:50 PM

KarenP (guest): I had a Catholic principal (we are public school teachers) who used to ask us to think using this concept when making faculty decision – is this something that I don’t like because it is uncomfortable for me or will be inconvenient or is it truly something that is against my conscience. I have found that to be a good ruler to use – so I think that you acted on your conscience, Judy, and that is courageous when it goes against public opinion.

Mar 29 2015, 7:50 PM

Judy K: You are right there Ruth. It is painfully obvious.

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Carol Ann: try not to laugh, but I’ve ended up in insurance, being told that the health types of insurance benefit people, and protect their families. that this company puts people ahead of profits. even got permission from my director to do this. until you find out that it’s really about money after all 4 PM

Lisa C: Mother Susan Marie, it is scary

Mar 29 2015, 7:54 PM

SrSusan (guest): I was thinking about the early days of Christianity when Christians were up against very different values, presecutions etc. That’swhen monasticism began; people went out to the deserts,some did anyway

Judy K: As we hear of people losing jobs because of their stand on certain issues, even young people who are being suspended from school for being pro-life, or anti same sex marriage, are good indicators of the direction in which the country is moving. M

KarenP (guest): I was thinking about how during World War II, the Polish people kept their faith alive in spite of it becoming illegal with both the Nazis and the Russians who invaded their country. I have always been amazed that it not only survived, but came back to life so vibrantly. , 7:57 PM

Judy K: Sometimes when you are being pushed, you get the strength to push back harder.

Mar 29 2015, 7:57 PM

SrSusan (guest): We need to hold on and celebrate our faith and values

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KarenP (guest): I hate to think that we will have to go underground to keep the faith – especially in a country founded on the concept of freedom of religion – but I take comfort in the fact that God is in charge and will remain so even if it appears that the world is winning at times.

Mar 29 2015, 7:57 PM

SrSusan (guest): Live that mercy as St Maximilian Kolbe did

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SrSusan (guest): That’s the irony Karen of that Indiana legislation! Trying to preserve our historical freedom of religion and they are being boycotted

Mar 29 2015, 7:59 PM

KarenP (guest): I think many people are so very hungry for love and acceptance that while we have so much anti-Christian sentiment, we also have a fertile field to harvest in if we use love to help us.

SrSusan (guest): We have to be absolutely committed to Christ as Ruth suggests; very united to His Will

Mar 29 2015, 8:01 PM

Judy K: What is weird is that when people want a certain right, they seem not to want to grant the same right to others.

Carol Ann: as though only their concept of “right” is valid

Mar 29 2015, 8:01 PM

SrSusan (guest): Hi Amy!

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Ruth (guest): When I was in FP residency training a director criticised me for quoting the Bible too often.

Mar 29 2015, 8:02 PM

KarenP (guest): Lisa, I have friends who are very pro-death choice. They cite the case of their aunt (who they will inherit from) not wanting to live anymore. She is depressed – so that makes it okay in their eyes. I think people who don’t have strong faith see this as a way of not suffering or watching someone suffer. I think those with more faith put it in God’s hands easier.

Carol Ann: Karen, i think that may be because people are divorced from the source of truth. they’ve taken the idea of personal conscience and stretched it beyond where it is meant to go

Mar 29 2015, 8:07 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: I like SFdS words on death in a letter to a friend: “We must be ready, not as if to set out before we are due to leave but so as to await the time of our leave-taking more peacefully.”

Guest1301 (guest): When the enemy comes in like a flood the spirit of the LORD shall raise up a standard against him ! God places us in situations that give us the opportunity to raise up a standard for God to the rest of the world !

SrSusan (guest): What can the Passion of Jesus teach us here

Mar 29 2015, 8:13 PM

Lisa C: Depression is like an invasion of a person. They no longer ask as themselves. I think we need to pray so much for depressed people

Mar 29 2015, 8:13 PM

Ruth (guest): Sr. Roberta, I am so sorry. How difficult that must be! Prayer and persuasion . . . !

Mar 29 2015, 8:13 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: “It was by His/Christ’s own choice that He died and not by the power of evil,” SFdS wrote.

Amy Cochran: yes, Christ could have come down from the cross!

Mar 29 2015, 8:14 PM

Carol Ann: To unite ourselves and our sufferings to Christ’s passion is to take control of our pain and use it for good

Mar 29 2015, 8:14 PM

KarenP (guest): Redemptive suffering was a new concept to me when I became Catholic. I had not heard a great deal about the redemptive piece until then. People don’t want to suffer in any form, but suicide is not the way out. I think we should pray for those who are depressed and waiting to die and wanting it to hurry. I wish they could see that they still have purpose if they would use their remaining time to pray for others.

Mar 29 2015, 8:15 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: Yes, Carol Ann, not to “waste” our sufferings, but to offer them for others.

Mar 29 2015, 8:15 PM

Amy Cochran: ah, yes, it sounds so easy until you are there, and unless you have Christ, suffering makes no sense

Mar 29 2015, 8:15 PM

Judy K: I think that if we look at the Stations of the Cross, we see a few things–in spite of falling several times, He keeps on going. He accepts help from Simon of Cyrene and the ministrations of Veronica. We do not have to go through suffering. He Himself will be with us and we have the support and care of relatives , friends, and yes, doctors, nurses and hospice workers.

Mar 29 2015, 8:15 PM

Judy K: Go through suffering alone.

Mar 29 2015, 8:15 PM

Lisa C: God will send consolation to those who are suffering if they ask

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Amy Cochran: I am amazed how little Jacinta of Fatima was so able to endure her last days of suffering alone in a hospital bed. But she had Mary

Mar 29 2015, 8:16 PM

Guest1301 (guest): A fruit of the spirit is longsuffering ! Look at the example of Jesus’s love in those who have suffered together with him in this life 1

Mar 29 2015, 8:16 PM

KarenP (guest): Good point, Judy. We never have to go through anything alone unless we choose to cut ourselves off. Jesus is always there with us – even to the end of time!

Mar 29 2015, 8:17 PM

Lisa C: I am not so sure that most Catholics totally understand suffering.

Mar 29 2015, 8:17 PM

Amy Cochran: Hail cross, our only Hope!

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Carol Ann: Until I began my vocation journey, I don’t think that anyone had taught me about it 15, 8:18 PM

Judy K: The other thing about Jesus’ passion–He was innocent. He did not deserve crucifixion. So from the point of justice, He was truly a victim. However, he chose to be such a victim for our sake. He accepted the injustice for our salvation. PM

KarenP (guest): I am not sure I really understand yet what I am doing when I offer up any sufferings, but I am trusting that it does some good. Even if it helps me to just not be so totally focused on me! , 8:19 PM

Judy K: And so we venerate the cross on Good Friday. The instrument of death was the instrument of salvation, of eternal life.

Mar 29 2015, 8:19 PM

SrSusan (guest): It’s in the mystical dimension

Mar 29 2015, 8:19 PM

SrSusan (guest): Offering one’s sufferings

Mar 29 2015, 8:19 PM

SrSusan (guest): It has effects we may or may not know about

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SrSusan (guest): It has effects we may or may not know about

Mar 29 2015, 8:20 PM

KarenP (guest): I can accept that, Mother. I just know that I am offering them on the faith that some good comes of it.

Mar 29 2015, 8:20 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: As Christ said, “There is no greater charity than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” (John 15:13)

Mar 29 2015, 8:20 PM

Ruth (guest): One thing I’ve discovered when sorely tested is that it is helpful to pray out loud. E.G. I belong to Jesus!

Mar 29 2015, 8:20 PM

Lisa C: Karen, St. Paul said that we join in the work of Jesus…the church also works to save souls though our offerings

Mar 29 2015, 8:21 PM

Guest1301 (guest): Jesus was obedient to His Father ! Not my will but may your will be done Father!Greatest act of Love for us !

Mar 29 2015, 8:21 PM

KarenP (guest): Agreed, Ruth. And no amount of my suffering will ever compare to His.

Mar 29 2015, 8:21 PM

Ruth (guest): Yes, Karen. Yes Judy.

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Mary Roberta Viano: SFdS again in a sermon: “It was death from love, and it is this that makes His sacrifice of the Cross a holocaust.”

Mar 29 2015, 8:22 PM

KarenP (guest): Thank you, Lisa. That adds more to it for my understanding.

Mar 29 2015, 8:22 PM

Carol Ann: perhaps the suffering we endure is for our own redemption as well as that of others

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Judy K: It is paradoxical to thing that we feel such sorrow on Good Friday, yet at the same we can rejoice in the cross because it has won life for us.

Mar 29 2015, 8:23 PM

Judy K: To thimk.

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Carol Ann: a stumbling block to some, foolishness to others, and the only way to life

Mar 29 2015, 8:23 PM

Ruth (guest): Through Marian Consecration ALL the merits of my prayers and good works are “distributed” by Mary.

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KarenP (guest): It is paradoxical – but it is so true. Through His suffering, our redemption was won.

Mar 29 2015, 8:24 PM

SrSusan (guest): A beautiful consecration Ruth. Have you done the 33 days to Morning Glory, or de Montford

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Judy K: Maybe we could discuss Marian Consecration. I feel that I should make it, but something is holding me back.

Mar 29 2015, 8:25 PM

Lisa C: Sister Mary Roberta has your sister talked about her wish with her children? Has she talked to a doctor? Can anyone get her treatment for depression or some kind of support?

Mar 29 2015, 8:26 PM

KarenP (guest): I just did the 33 days to Morning Glory, also. Is that the one you did, Ruth? I found it an wonderful idea to let Mary distribute whatever merits we earned to where they were needed most.

Mar 29 2015, 8:26 PM

Ruth (guest): And just Tuesday night abput 40 people consecratecrated themselves agter 33 Days . . .

Mar 29 2015, 8:26 PM

SrSusan (guest): I just did it too, very powerful book too

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Mary Roberta Viano: My sister and I aren’t especially close because she’s an atheist, so I haven’t probed as to the details of her decision.

Mar 29 2015, 8:27 PM

KarenP (guest): Yes, I would like to do it again with others rather than singly – the 33 Days book. I hope to get a couple of friends to do it soon.

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Ruth (guest): It was at St. Edmunds, near Our Lady of the Adirondacks House of Prayer in Ellenburg/ Ellenburgh Center.

Mar 29 2015, 8:28 PM

Lisa C: In the Army we have a big problem with suicide and they way they are dealing with it is by having us try to notice when people are depressed and bringing them to help.

Mar 29 2015, 8:28 PM

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Judy K: Mother, did you have any reservations about it? I recall that when I first read de Montfort’s book back in the ’60s, I felt that he was bordering on heresy and I put the book away.

Mar 29 2015, 8:28 PM

Ruth (guest): So Joyful! I renewed 3rd year, a little early.

Mar 29 2015, 8:28 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: The death question really comes down to what SFdS says is Christ perfection, which, he says, “consists in this point: to ask god for nothing and to refuse God nothing. We should not ask Him for death, yet we should not refuse is when it comes.”

Mar 29 2015, 8:29 PM

SrSusan (guest): Not the way it was presented Judy in this book

Mar 29 2015, 8:29 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: Christian perfection

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Lisa C: Sr. MRV are you able to get her children to get her to some help

Mar 29 2015, 8:29 PM

Ruth (guest): DeMontford Is a SAINT. And his teachings helped make JPII into a saint.

Mar 29 2015, 8:30 PM

Judy K: I don’t know why I am so resistant. My mother had me dedicated to the Blessed Mother when I was baptised and I am sure that I am a Salesian today because she led me there.

Mar 29 2015, 8:30 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: When the time comes, Lisa, I may be able to talk with her kids. We’ll see…

Mar 29 2015, 8:30 PM

KarenP (guest): I had reservations at first – but I still sometimes feel odd about what Mary’s role in my faith should be. (That is the old ideas from my protestant upbringing.) I found the way this book presented things to help with that. You could always read the book and pray and see if you still have reservations. Perhaps there is some idea that you need explained to help you.

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Judy K: I’ll have to get the book. M PM

KarenP (guest): And she can help us get past our reservations if we just tell her how we feel. Things will become clearer and we become more comfortable. It is a process that is ever changing – just like our prayer life and the other aspects of our faith life.

Mar 29 2015, 8:32 PM

Ruth (guest): 33 Days tio Morning glory is a lot easier than DeMontfort’s book.

Mar 29 2015, 8:33 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: Like Mary, we say, “I am the servant of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to your word.”

Mar 29 2015, 8:33 PM

Ruth (guest): My Marian spirituality is a very late bloomer . . .

 

Mary Roberta Viano: Like any good mother, Mary can guide us with love toward the Good – Her Son.

Mar 29 2015, 8:31 PM

Lisa C: Jesus was incarnated because of Mary’s yes

Mar 29 2015, 8:31 PM

Lisa C: Mary is part of our salvation

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Ruth (guest): But so freeing.

Mar 29 2015, 8:33 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: The rosary is probably the best Marian prayer of all.

Mar 29 2015, 8:33 PM

KarenP (guest): Yes, DeMontfort’s book is not as easy to read and the 33 days does make it a gentle easy to follow process

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Judy K: One day in prayer, I felt the Lord say to me that He came to us through Mary and that we should come to Him through her as well. That is what is causing me to reconsider it at this time. I was deeply devoted to Mary as a child, but then Jesus took over.

Mar 29 2015, 8:34 PM

Mary Roberta Viano: Praying the rosary every day inevitably brings us closer to Mary, who brings us close to her Son.

Mar 29 2015, 8:34 PM

Ruth (guest): There is no conflict between Jesus and Mary.

Mar 29 2015, 8:35 PM

Judy K: I know that in my head, but I seem to have trouble getting it to my heart.

Mar 29 2015, 8:35 PM

Judy K: Maybe it would be good for me to spend time with Mary during this week and see things through her eyes.

Mar 29 2015, 8:35 PM

Guest1301 (guest): Help us to know your will dear Lord Jesus , and to do it !

Mar 29 2015, 8:35 PM

Ruth (guest): Mary wants us united with her Son more than even we are able to want tat.

Mar 29 2015, 8:36 PM

Carol Ann: that is an excellent form of contemplation

Mary Roberta Viano: Let’s pray for each other that these holiest days of Holy Week bring us all closer to Our Lord! G’night.

Mar 29 2015, 8:36 PM

KarenP (guest): I still have to remind myself that Mary always points us to her son to get past the old ideas that I am elevating her to a place that would somehow diminish her son. I just keep reminding myself and asking her to help me with it.

Mar 29 2015, 8:36 PM

Judy K: G’night Sister.

Mar 29 2015, 8:36 PM

Lisa C: Judy read The Life of Mary As Seen By The Mystics

Mar 29 2015, 8:37 PM

Judy K: Is that a TAN book?

Mar 29 2015, 8:37 PM

KarenP (guest): Thank you Sr. Mary Roberta! I will pray for all for a wonderful Holy Week experience that deepens our faith lives.

Mar 29 2015, 8:37 PM

Carol Ann: that sounds like a great book!

Mar 29 2015, 8:37 PM

Carol Ann: good night everyone, Happy Holy Week!

(guest): Blessed Holy Week!

Mar 29 2015, 8:38 PM

Judy K: Good night all. May we all be able to immerse ourselves in the Liturgies of this week and awake to a glorious Easter as did Mary and the Apostles.

Mar 29 2015, 8:38 PM

SrSusan (guest): Thank you all!

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SrSusan (guest): Thank you all!

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

Ruth (guest): Good night — so grateful for the mercy Jesus brings into the world. A blessed Holy Week!

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

Judy K: Will we have a chat next week?

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

SrSusan (guest): Probably not on Easter, actually

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

KarenP (guest): Good night everyone! Come back next week, guest 1301 and join us again! Don’t forget to pray for our country and to keep the prayer wall going for the Middle East.

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

SrSusan (guest): At least not a formal one.

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

SrSusan (guest): Do you all want one>

Mar 29 2015, 8:39 PM

KarenP (guest): So if anyone signs on – we can chat!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

SrSusan (guest): Maybe a little later like 8PM est

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

SrSusan (guest): Good idea Karen!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

Judy K: That sounds good.

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

SrSusan (guest): OK!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

KarenP (guest): We don’t seem to run out of things to chat about – so we will gather for those who wish!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

SrSusan (guest): Good night!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

Carol Ann: we will all have to drop by if we can and see who is here

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

KarenP (guest): Sounds good! Good night!

Mar 29 2015, 8:40 PM

Lisa C: God Bless

 

Announcement: Salesian Week 2015

AnnecySalesian Week
August 23, 2015 August 29, 2015

Where Annecy, France

For the year 2015, the theme in the context of the Salesian Week is based on an updated reading of “Introduction to the Devout Life.” The general theme: “I have called you friends … (John 15, 14)” with the subtitle: “Living as a Christian with St. Francis de Sales and St. Jane de Chantal. »

SYLLABUS:

DAILY MASS AT 10 AM AT THE BASILICA
CONFERENCES at  HOME OF THE DIOCESE – LA PUYA
15H: WORSHIP THE BASILICA
17H: VESPERS
Lectures in the Salesian Week, every day at 11:30 and 18h

Location: House of the diocese -The Puya (phone on 04 50 33 09 00), 4 avenue of the Visitation in Annecy -Opening: 11h 30 and 18h

Speaking Monday August 24: Father André Chatenoud PRIEST OF FRANCIS DE SALES
Theme: “Christian Life, a door and a way”

Speaking  Tuesday, August 25: Father Jean-Claude Mutabaz, pastor of St. Mary’s Parish (La Roche sur Foron)
Theme: “Living as a Christian: patience and humility”

Speaking Wednesday August 26: Father Michel Tournade, parish priest of the risen Christ, Oblate of St. Francis de Sales.
Theme: “Living as a Christian: the sweetness in a world of violence”

Speaking on Thursday, August 27: Father Jean-Luc Leroux, parish priest of Blessed Mother Teresa, an Oblate of St. Francis de Sales.
Theme “Consecrated Life: call and stimulus for all the baptized”

Speaking on Friday, August 28: Father Vincent Rossat, PRIEST OF FRANCIS DE SALES, Diocesan responsible for the pastoral Youth Diocese of Annecy.
Theme “Identifying and overcoming obstacles”

Speaking of Saturday, August 29: Father Yves Carron, Provincial Superior of the Missionaries of St. Francis de Sales
Theme: Passing from desire to decision

HOLY WEEK

Holy Week with St. Francis de Sales

 

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Let’s live this holiest of weeks with St. Francis de Sales, remembering and reflecting on his words about Our Lord’s Passion, preached on Good Friday in 1622.

St. Francis de Sales began: ” I will take for my subject only the words of the title that Pilate had inscribed on the Cross: Jesus the Nazarene, the King of the Jews. In this title are implied all the causes of this divine Passion.

Jesus means Savior. Now He died because He was a Savior. He was a Nazarene. This word means “flourishing”, that is, holy and innocent, without stain of sin, but flourishing with all sorts of virtues and perfections.

King of the Jews means He is both Savior and King. To redeem those who confess Him, He died.

But could God not have provided a remedy other than that of His Son’s death? Certainly, He could have done so. But He did not will to do so, for what may seem sufficient for our salvation was not sufficient for His Love.”