Chatting about Blessed Mother

Ruth (Guest): I’ve been there, too. Wanted to enter around 1988 but couldn’t get a residency position (training as a physician) nearby –– required (that is, continuing your normal work) for the postalancy year.

Ruth (Guest): This refers to Erie, PA, which Jen mentioned.

Ruth (Guest): I’ve been back a couple of times, Jennifer.

Ruth (Guest): I wound up doing a year of Family Practice in Toledo, Ohio; so Erie was sort of the half-way stop-over when I visited my mother on Long Island. And then more recently –– 2011 –– I went for a few days to get reacquainted –– on my way to a convention in Missouri.

Ruth (Guest): Habit? That’s funny. All but the oldest sisters wear ordinary clothing. Seems to me on my first visit I spent a lot of time in a bathing suit! They have a pool, and one time we were taken to a beach on Lake Erie.

Ruth (Guest): Carol Ann, I suspect your reply is to the question about the questions. Half way through the time and without Judy or Mother we don’t get to them. I found ‘em difficult, too.

Ruth (Guest): But just now I thought, the comparison of Mary to Eve: In the Garden of Eden before the first sin, there was no death as we know it, and no concupiscence, so because Mary was free from original sin, she may have been free from death –– at least the death with the struggle between spirit and bodily influences –– like in Eden.

Ruth (Guest): Interesting observation, Carol Ann. I had not seen the “Dormition” in a Rosary guide. And my nearest church is called Assumption.

Ruth (Guest): Dormition seems to be a word used something like death without a struggle –– the kind of death –– sort of a falling asleep –– that would naturally, without struggle occur in Eden before the fall.

Ruth (Guest): The trouble I have with the whole discussion is that we do not have any evidence, as far as I know, so why to a lot of theorizing (that is theologizing) about it. Good reference Jennifer.

Ruth (Guest): Still the advocates of “dormition” probably see no conflict with Pius XII’s definition of the “Assumption” –– since body and soul could, theoretically at least, go to heaven together even AFTER Mary “falls asleep.“

Ruth (Guest): We expect that all of our bodies will be raised on the last day. We believe in the resurrection of the body and life everlasting. Not OUR last day unless it happens to coincide with the Parusia. Is that the right word? When Jesus comes in glory to open all the graves and take us bodily to heaven.

Ruth (Guest): Good work, Jennifer. Is that from the Catechism of the Catholic Faith?

Ruth (Guest): He was resurrected; she assumed into heaven. I had been wondering about the use of a different term. Maybe assumed assumes that she did not die first as Jesus did.

Ruth (Guest): Hmm. Interesting idea, Carol Ann/

Ruth (Guest): Thanks for sharing with us Jennifer.

Ruth (Guest): By the way, the Church of the Assumption, near here in Gabriels, was built and named over one hundred years ago.

Ruth (Guest): 690, is that you Brian?

Ruth (Guest): The Ascension of Jesus was after his sojourn on Earth after his Resurrection. So not exactly.

Ruth (Guest): Welcome Angela!

Ruth (Guest): Interesting, the church in the next town, Lake Placid –– St. Agnes –– has a beautiful stained glass window over the altar asp depicting the Ascension of Jesus.

Ruth (Guest): St. Francis de Sales was really prolific –– and in his time a popular evangelizer. It’s difficult to get easy-to-read translations, though. I have one called Rose Among Thorns that I think would be a good introduction –– much easier to read that Introduction to the Devout Life –– which we were studying about three years ago. The little book I mention consists of excerpts from his letters. I’ve read some of his letters –– maybe it is the translation –– or the fact that he was specifically addressing one

Ruth (Guest): person –– sort of offering spiritual direction.

Ruth (Guest): More and more the Tabernacle is being returned to the central position –– above or behind the altar. In the early years post Vatican II a lot of “experimenting” was going on. The Eucharist is central to our Catholic Faith.

Ruth (Guest): Rose Among Thorns.

Ruth (Guest): Yes, and I’ve been having eye trouble –– blurring after just a few minutes of reading –– and pain in my rt. eye. Plus, I am a dyslexic bibliophile, so there are indeed so many good books so little time.

Ruth (Guest): Thank you

Ruth (Guest): Carol Ann. You said you e-mailed me while I was away. I searched for your e-mail to me.

Ruth (Guest): Dawn, I paid for an Amazon Audible subscription; the books I ordered never came through. I just haven’t had time to fight with them over it. We can get audio books from our local library for free, but not the same variety that I’ve ordered. And some of them were in German.

Ruth (Guest): God bless! Good night.