We start the last book of the Treatise.
Jan 4, 10:01 AM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): • s this idea new
to you that those predisposed to natural love vs. those who are not can love
equally?
• Why is it important that our individual temperament be a part of the
expression of how we love?
• Would it be better if we just all loved with the same characteristic of love
instead of God making use of our temperament?
• Does this help give you hope in your own spiritual life?
• Have you thought about how your own temperament forms the way you love God?
Jan 4, 10:01 AM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Sun chat Jan 5 730pm est
Jan 5, 7:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Sr Susan! and Brian, Blanca, and Ruth. a best Epiphany of The Lord
Jan 5, 7:33 PM
Blanca Villa: Hello Dawn and everyone.
Jan 5, 7:33 PM
Brian (Guest): Hi Sister Susan , Dawn, Blanca , and Ruth !!! God Bless You !!!
Jan 5, 7:33 PM
Dawn (Guest): Mass was beautiful today, an unusual peacefulness among the Congregation
Jan 5, 7:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): Happy you are here Brian. God bless you and your family
Jan 5, 7:34 PM
Brian (Guest): I noticed that today also Dawn !!!
Jan 5, 7:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): Ah! that is wonderful
Jan 5, 7:36 PM
Brian (Guest): Nice to be back !!! Missed you all !!! Beautiful 90th Birthday Party For Janet’s Dad last Sunday and week before we had beautiful reunion with KairosMen !!!Thanks for all the Prayers!!!!
Jan 5, 7:39 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hello Dear chat friends. Looks like Sister is not here just now. She posted the questions yesterday morning. But I am glad you are here Blanch, Dawn, Brian, and viewer. You’ve been missed Brian. Glad it was for good, happy occasions.
Jan 5, 7:40 PM
Brian (Guest): Thanks Ruth !!! I missed you all !!!
Jan 5, 7:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): Anyone want to try the questions?
Jan 5, 7:41 PM
Ruth (Guest): s this idea new to you
that those predisposed to natural love vs. those who are not can love equally?
• Why is it important that our individual temperament be a part of the
expression of how we love?
Jan 5, 7:42 PM
Dawn (Guest): I have not thought about how others love God or there could be a difference depending on our temperament…before reading this
Jan 5, 7:44 PM
Dawn (Guest): pondering on Mary and Martha, there is a difference of temperament
Jan 5, 7:45 PM
Ruth (Guest): Somehow I find the notion “separate — different — but equal” like early attempts at racial justice somehow a bit amusing. But I have noticed how differently different people love. I can’t say how they love GOD, because I don’t SEE that; I see how they interact with other people.
Jan 5, 7:45 PM
Brian (Guest): Our Spiritual Gifts are expressed also Soo differently when we are close to God as opposed Too being far away . Temperament might actually be fixed too some extent but we cannot truly Love without God !!!
Jan 5, 7:45 PM
Ruth (Guest): And aren’t we supposed to see the Face of Jesus in others.
Jan 5, 7:46 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good example Dawn. Martha and Mary.
Jan 5, 7:46 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen !!!
Jan 5, 7:47 PM
Ruth (Guest): Many Marthas among us often feel “slighted” by the evident preference Jesus shows for Mary’s hospitality over Martha’s
Jan 5, 7:48 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yet I don’t think Jesus loved Martha any less.
Jan 5, 7:49 PM
Blanca Villa: I’ve always been curious of how others relate to God or how they talk about God and I think it relates to how they love God. It’s interesting.
Jan 5, 7:49 PM
Ruth (Guest): What is special about Mary’s way of relating?
Jan 5, 7:50 PM
Brian (Guest): Soo important for us too do what God wants us too do now . We can get stuck in routines that might prevent us from doing what God wants us to do !
Jan 5, 7:51 PM
Ruth (Guest): Only ONE thing is necessary!
Jan 5, 7:52 PM
Brian (Guest): Obediance to God !!!
Jan 5, 7:52 PM
Dawn (Guest): it is interesting how persons differ. and to be ready for Gods or the Holy Spirits prompting to do something!
Jan 5, 7:53 PM
Blanca Villa: That Mary chose to contemplate Jesus first before moving on to other things.
Jan 5, 7:53 PM
Ruth (Guest): And yet all those individual “supportive” tasks certainly seem necessary. How would it be if Jesus came to dinner at your house, and the food was neglected, and there wasn’t room at the table because a bunch of other projects is cluttering it?
Jan 5, 7:54 PM
Dawn (Guest): I wonder if we can draw a comparison between Mary and Martha and what StFDesales writes about….difference of temperament?
Jan 5, 7:55 PM
Brian (Guest): Soo True Dawn !!! We can all be at different place with God !!! Sometimes we can get frustrated with others but when we realize better where they are at we can realize that they are doing best with God where they are at
Jan 5, 7:55 PM
Ruth (Guest): I love the German translation of Mary LISTENED to Jesus. “Lauschte” — it’s like “gobbled up his words, tasted them with pleasure.
Jan 5, 7:56 PM
Blanca Villa: So true Brian.
Jan 5, 7:57 PM
Dawn (Guest): True Brian. and a lovely translation Ruth!
Jan 5, 7:59 PM
Ruth (Guest): Wanna try questions 3
&4? Would it be better if we just all loved with the same characteristic of
love instead of God making use of our temperament?
Does this help give you hope in your own spiritual life?
Jan 5, 7:59 PM
Dawn (Guest): the NRSVCE uses the word listen. but now I will understand it more completely Ruth!
Jan 5, 8:00 PM
Brian (Guest): Was serving dinner at homeless mission in Niagara Falls last night it was joy but a lot of hard work with joy all day preparing but seeing the fellowship that happened is always truly awesome You see God working on all of us wherever we are soo
Jan 5, 8:00 PM
Brian (Guest): Cool
Jan 5, 8:01 PM
Ruth (Guest): Table fellowship. So precious! We are not meant to just refuel our bodies, but to share of ourSELVES at meals.
Jan 5, 8:01 PM
Dawn (Guest): A blessing you can be there Brian!
Jan 5, 8:02 PM
Dawn (Guest): yes, Ruth. a beautiful thought
Jan 5, 8:03 PM
Dawn (Guest): sharing ourSELVES at meals. Jesus did.
Jan 5, 8:03 PM
Ruth (Guest): That is why when one lives alone, or in some families, when each member is on a different schedule, so eats alone — something important is lost.
Jan 5, 8:04 PM
Dawn (Guest): yes
Jan 5, 8:04 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good observation Dawn. Yes, and one way of sharing ourselves is to LISTEN.
Jan 5, 8:04 PM
Brian (Guest): Soo Greatful too God for opportunity . A friend encouraged a bunch of us too get involved !!! Been a blessing to all of us !!!
Jan 5, 8:05 PM
Dawn (Guest): so, I think I will make an effort to eat with others
Jan 5, 8:05 PM
Dawn (Guest): just realized the Mission is different than Karios?
Jan 5, 8:06 PM
Brian (Guest): A Great Time Too Listen Listen Love Love
Jan 5, 8:06 PM
Ruth (Guest): We become “Bread for the World” when we give some of that God-connectedness –> when JOY shines through even when we are in troubled times, or even feeling sick.
Jan 5, 8:07 PM
Blanca Villa: I think that by having different temperaments and loving God differently helps us accomplish the different missions, taks and duties that we are called to do.
Jan 5, 8:07 PM
Ruth (Guest): You have it Brian. LISTEN, LOVE, PRAY.
Jan 5, 8:08 PM
Ruth (Guest): I think I’m good at listening when I’m in the “doctor” role, but the rest of the time I think I TALK too much.
Jan 5, 8:08 PM
Brian (Guest): Niagara Rescue Gospel Mission . Renovated Old YMCA really nice groups come from all over to serve meals . Homeless shelter and serve meals to homeless in Area
Jan 5, 8:09 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes, Blanca. It would not be better if we changed his design
Jan 5, 8:09 PM
Dawn (Guest): even if we could
Jan 5, 8:09 PM
Ruth (Guest): Corporal Works of Mercy — such a wonderful way of expressing God’s love.
Jan 5, 8:10 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Blanca!!!
Jan 5, 8:11 PM
Brian (Guest): The Body of Christ !!! God wants all to work together and do position He calls us too
Jan 5, 8:12 PM
Ruth (Guest): When I read the question I had an image of flowers. How glorious it is that there are a huge variety of flowers; even a field full of daffodils is not as interesting as a pasture with many different kinds of flowers. Each gives glory to God.
Jan 5, 8:12 PM
Brian (Guest): He uses our temperament to serve where He calls us !!! Follow the Call !!!
Jan 5, 8:13 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Ruth !!!!
Jan 5, 8:13 PM
Ruth (Guest): Or like in an orchestra — so many different instruments — together make one glorious symphonic work.
Jan 5, 8:14 PM
Brian (Guest): A Miracle of God Too see all those artists work together as one !!!
Jan 5, 8:14 PM
Blanca Villa: So poetic Ruth, I love it!
Jan 5, 8:15 PM
Brian (Guest): That’s why Jesus Calls us to be One !!!
Jan 5, 8:16 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, and even a hermit, praying alone, can join his prayers to the larger Church as a whole. Or a person dying in pain, can “offer up” the suffering for others, thereby contributing to the whole.
Jan 5, 8:17 PM
Blanca Villa: May you all have a blessed week, bye!
Jan 5, 8:17 PM
Ruth (Guest): We’ve already begun to answer Question 5 — by talking about recognizing and responding to God’s call, finding our place . . . #5 Have you thought about how your own temperament forms the way you love God?
Jan 5, 8:18 PM
Dawn (Guest): And he calls us out into the field. I may not be surround by other Christians always, but he will place it in my heart to organize a gathering and a meal. I have to not worry, or feel sad I am not with others from church, and I just do this!
Jan 5, 8:19 PM
Dawn (Guest): He loves every one of us, not one more than another. May he use me to share this
Jan 5, 8:19 PM
Ruth (Guest): Dawn, I think you are one of those whom SFdS describes as having a sweet, loving temperament.
Jan 5, 8:19 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Ruth !!! Attended Mass at Dominican Monastery in Buffalo this morning !!!! The Singing and the Readings by Sisters was Soo Beautiful !!!!! Like Being in Heaven !!!! Such incredible Servants of God !!!!
Jan 5, 8:19 PM
Dawn (Guest): AH you were in Heaven Brian!
Jan 5, 8:20 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Dawn !!! What a privilege too be there !!!! Very Humbling !!!!
Jan 5, 8:21 PM
Ruth (Guest): A foretaste, anyway. Something to help us long for the fullness of being face-to-face with God.
Jan 5, 8:21 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Ruth !!!
Jan 5, 8:21 PM
Dawn (Guest): My soul feels consoled by collecting images of Sisters. sounds funny, but I am so thankful for all of them. Their prayers have a great effect on the world!
Jan 5, 8:22 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Dawn !!!
Jan 5, 8:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): I thought of taking a world map and somehow placing light wherever a monastary or convent or church was. How great would be this light!!’
Jan 5, 8:23 PM
Ruth (Guest): Funny, this morning I was at the little church closest to my home. The organist wasn’t there, and the song leader must have had was fighting a cold, I think.
Jan 5, 8:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): I do not know the technology to do this but maybe I will discover it
Jan 5, 8:24 PM
Brian (Guest): The Kids will teach you Dawn !!!
Jan 5, 8:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): oh, of course! good idea, I will consult them!
Jan 5, 8:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): Little churches are beautiful
Jan 5, 8:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): We don’t do acapello very well, but still it was a joyous occasion. Fr. Martin started his sermon quoting a child playing the roll of one of the wise men, bringing “gold, commonsense, and fur.”
Jan 5, 8:26 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Dawn !!! Soo Beautiful !!!
Jan 5, 8:26 PM
Ruth (Guest): Bright idea Dawn.
Jan 5, 8:27 PM
Dawn (Guest): The thought of the children, Ruth, starting off this way!
Jan 5, 8:29 PM
Ruth (Guest): And he even went on to point out a line from that evil Herod which we could follow — albeit for a different reason: “Search diligently for the Child . . . ”
Jan 5, 8:31 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, Fr. pointed out that the kids’ ideas would be more useful, but the symbolic meaning of the gifts: kingship, worship; preparation for death.
Jan 5, 8:31 PM
Brian (Guest): Please Pray for my Friend Bob , his dear wife Toni a Holy Woman if God passed away this week after great Suffering with Great Grace !!! Funeral Mass Tuesday at 930am !!! An extroidinary Couple who have Loved and Served God and All of Us !!!
Jan 5, 8:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): Prayers for Toni, and for her husband and family
Jan 5, 8:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): Did anyone see the pictures of a young beautiful nun, who died from cancer. Her smile was SO amazing, her smile I think as she saw Jesus.
Jan 5, 8:34 PM
Ruth (Guest): May the Lord strengthen and console Bob as he surrenders his loving wife Toni to the company of the Saints.
Jan 5, 8:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): In Jesus name we pray, Amen.
Jan 5, 8:35 PM
Dawn (Guest): I think Blanca signed off….God bless you Blanca. Thank you for being here. see you next week!
Jan 5, 8:36 PM
Brian (Guest): Thanks Soo Much !!! One of Toni’s favorite songs from Kairos was Go Make A Difference You Can Make a Difference Go Make a Difference for the Lord !!!! She Made A Big Difference for the Lord !!! A Bright Light for Christ Like You All !!!! Keep Shining for Jesus!!!!
Jan 5, 8:37 PM
Ruth (Guest): And if there be any imperfection hindering a speedy transition Home to Our Lord, may the merits of His Sacrifice on the Cross, remedy this and bring her to perfect peace.
Jan 5, 8:38 PM
Dawn (Guest): Amen! God bless you all friends. thank you. goodnight
Jan 5, 8:38 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen !!!!
Jan 5, 8:38 PM
Dawn (Guest): beautiful prayer, Amen
Jan 5, 8:38 PM
Brian (Guest): God Bless You All !!!
Jan 5, 8:39 PM
Dawn (Guest): Amen.
Jan 5, 8:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): God bless, and fill this last week of Christmas with calm happiness — each of you who’ve been baptized into the Life of Christ: Prophet, priest, and king.
Jan 5, 8:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good night.