How do we dedicate our works for
God’s glory?
What does perfection of charity look like in a consecrated woman vs. a married
woman?
Is there a priority in offering riches and actions to God? Is one more
“valuable?”
How can we begin our day by intentionally offering our works for God?
How do the ideas discussed in this chapter affect our salvation?
Feb 20, 9:30 AM
VisitationSiste: Feb 23 at 730pm est
Feb 20, 9:31 AM
VisitationSiste: for chatter John Romero: https://visitationspirit.org/2018/04/divine-mercy/
Feb 23, 4:16 PM
Brian (Guest): Hi Sister Susan !!! God Bless You All !!! Have a Wonderful Chat Tonight !!! Please keep Kairos Men in Prayer Tonight !!!!
Feb 23, 7:26 PM
VisitationSiste: welcome viewers
Feb 23, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: sign in anytime
Feb 23, 7:32 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Hi, Mother and Blanca
Feb 23, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: hello Blanca and Sr Jennifer
Feb 23, 7:33 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Hi viewers
Feb 23, 7:33 PM
Blanca Villa: Hello Sister Susan & Jennifer.
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: The Visitation Monastery in Brooklyn was fouNded for the gLORY OF gOD
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Sr Susan Sr Jennifer and Blanca!
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: God
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Dawn
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
Blanca Villa: Hi Dawn
Feb 23, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: Founded for the Glory of God, after the Sisters made a novena for the pure glory of God
Feb 23, 7:35 PM
Dawn (Guest): do you mean they were inspired to open the monastary, for Gods glory, after praying a novena?
Feb 23, 7:36 PM
VisitationSiste: so, How do we dedicate our works for God’s glory?
Feb 23, 7:36 PM
VisitationSiste: Not inspired Dawn. The Bishop from Brooklyn came to Baltimore Visitation in the middle of their novena to invite them to Brooklyn
Feb 23, 7:38 PM
VisitationSiste: So I guess he was inspired by the novena- which of course he had no direct knowledge of
Feb 23, 7:38 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Hi Ruth and Dawn
Feb 23, 7:38 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Ruth
Feb 23, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: So in advance all our works were dedicated to God’s glory
Feb 23, 7:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hello Blancha, Sr. Susan, Dawn and Sr. Jennifer — and viewer.
Feb 23, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: I think the Jesuits also focus on God’s glory in a special way
Feb 23, 7:41 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Ruth
Feb 23, 7:41 PM
Blanca Villa: Hello Ruth
Feb 23, 7:42 PM
Dawn (Guest): a powerful testament
Feb 23, 7:42 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sr. Susan, is that the way a new convent or monastery usually is started. The Bishop just asks a pre-existing one to come to his diocese?
Feb 23, 7:43 PM
Dawn (Guest): to partly answer q1, I may add to pray a novena to Gods glory!
Feb 23, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: A Bishop has to be involved in all new foundations, but sometimes it is the congregation asking the Bishop
Feb 23, 7:44 PM
Ruth (Guest): Wouldn’t any and every monestery, congregation, church be “to God’s Glory”/
Feb 23, 7:45 PM
Ruth (Guest): Even paintings, artworks of all sorts, medical studies when the artist/student chooses it to be so.
Feb 23, 7:45 PM
VisitationSiste: yes, but perhaps not specifically in the way the Brooklyn Visitation happened with an ongoing novena
Feb 23, 7:46 PM
Ruth (Guest): Ongoing novena. Does that mean during one of the nine days in which the Novena prayers are said?
Feb 23, 7:48 PM
VisitationSiste: yes halfway thru the bishop came
Feb 23, 7:48 PM
Ruth (Guest): So, not necessarily exactly while the prayers were being said.
Feb 23, 7:50 PM
Ruth (Guest): How does it manifest itself that the Brooklyn Monastery is specifically or specially for the glory of God?
Feb 23, 7:50 PM
VisitationSiste: That’s probably so!
Feb 23, 7:51 PM
Dawn (Guest): Sr Jennifer, how are you?
Feb 23, 7:51 PM
VisitationSiste: We are conscious of this history and intention- and in a liturgical way we make sure when we say the divine office we do not eliminate the doxology as some Visitation Monasteries do after each psalm
Feb 23, 7:52 PM
Ruth (Guest): Interesting. It seems to me that the doxology kinda’ reinforces important parts of the psalms. Why would anyone want to eliminate it?
Feb 23, 7:52 PM
VisitationSiste: Don’t know- but they do
Feb 23, 7:53 PM
VisitationSiste: Perhaps it is optional- I must read over the rubrics in the blue volume
Feb 23, 7:54 PM
Ruth (Guest): I wonder how often when we eat and drink we are conscious of doing that to the glory of God.
Feb 23, 7:54 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Hi Dawn, I am fine. Thank you
Feb 23, 7:55 PM
Ruth (Guest): And if wanting to give him more glory might tend to make us fat!
Feb 23, 7:55 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Good to know how our Monastery started. Thank you, Mother
Feb 23, 7:58 PM
VisitationSiste: What does perfection of charity look like in a consecrated woman vs. a married woman?
Feb 23, 7:58 PM
Ruth (Guest): It is interesting that in SFdS’s day children were thought of a belonging to the father.
Feb 23, 7:59 PM
Ruth (Guest): I imagine, Q2, that it would mean for each that she does her varying duties with love.
Feb 23, 8:01 PM
VisitationSiste: really Ruth? I did not know that about the father
Feb 23, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: A priest in a homily once said that Perfection” is not, not making mistakkes, but completeness and wholeness
Feb 23, 8:02 PM
Ruth (Guest): Isn’t or cannot a married woman also be a consecrated woman — in the sense that she may have given herself to God but expresses the love of God through her love of her husband and children and doing services for them.
Feb 23, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: So perfection of charity could be complete and whole, healthy charity with good intentions
Feb 23, 8:03 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes Daughters of SFDS are married and consecrated in the Church
Feb 23, 8:04 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Singapore has a different law to protect the weaker. The Women’s Charter is an Act of the Singaporean Parliament passed in 1961 is to protect the rights of women
Feb 23, 8:04 PM
Ruth (Guest): Daughters of SFdS: Is that like 3rd order or oblates?
Feb 23, 8:05 PM
Ruth (Guest): 3rd order Dominicans and Franciscans; Oblates: Benedictines
Feb 23, 8:05 PM
VisitationSiste: It is an independent group but similar to a third oder
Feb 23, 8:07 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Then which is then the third order? is it the oblates of DFdS
Feb 23, 8:08 PM
Ruth (Guest): 3rd paragraph of today’s selection Book 12 Chapter 8.
Feb 23, 8:08 PM
VisitationSiste: there is no third order for Visitation
Feb 23, 8:09 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Noted
Feb 23, 8:09 PM
VisitationSiste: Is there a priority in offering riches and actions to God? Is one more “valuable?”
Feb 23, 8:10 PM
Dawn (Guest): St Francis says ( in chats reading) there is truly no difference
Feb 23, 8:11 PM
Dawn (Guest): I believe this can be answered more completely
Feb 23, 8:12 PM
VisitationSiste: Can you try?
Feb 23, 8:13 PM
Dawn (Guest): He challenges me in this….
Feb 23, 8:14 PM
Dawn (Guest): And if the one, distributing his crowns without attention, fails not to have the advantage of that first purpose, why shall not the other, in the distribution of his actions, enjoy the fruit of the first intention?
Feb 23, 8:16 PM
VisitationSiste: Ah yes
Feb 23, 8:16 PM
Ruth (Guest): Seems that to our Bishop the riches are more valuable, the services less so. I offered to see patients Charitas for free. No take. There was a cartoon in the diocesan newpaper: It showed a Penguin bringing loads of fish as a gift. Caption: That’s not exactly what I had in mind. Bishop’s Fund Collection. God may give “credit” even for a real offer. A terminally ill friend to come and live out the rest of he life in my home, with my service as best I could, and her brother, too, who would be FAR les
Feb 23, 8:16 PM
Dawn (Guest): this > He who has deliberately made himself a loving servant of his divine goodness has, by that act, dedicated to him all his actions. and this is why there is no difference
Feb 23, 8:16 PM
VisitationSiste: Thank you!!
Feb 23, 8:16 PM
Ruth (Guest): less agreeable to have around.
Feb 23, 8:19 PM
VisitationSiste: How can we begin our day by intentionally offering our works for God?
Feb 23, 8:19 PM
Ruth (Guest): dedicated: Does that require a specific, public ceremony?
Feb 23, 8:20 PM
Ruth (Guest): Morning offering, said with full attention and intention.
Feb 23, 8:21 PM
VisitationSiste: Direction of intention as taught by SFDS as well
Feb 23, 8:22 PM
Blanca Villa: Yes Ruth the Morning Prayer is key for me & a specific prayer to God to bless my work.
Feb 23, 8:22 PM
Ruth (Guest): So important!
Feb 23, 8:23 PM
Ruth (Guest): I used to bless my text books, too, and ask God to help me to learn well so that I could better serve my future patients, and thereby glorify Him.
Feb 23, 8:24 PM
VisitationSiste: that is beautiful
Feb 23, 8:24 PM
Ruth (Guest): Direction of intention?
Feb 23, 8:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): Not sure what that means.
Feb 23, 8:25 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes-
My God, I give you this day. I offer you, now, all of the good that I shall do
and I promise to accept, for love of you, all of the difficulty that I shall
meet. Help me to conduct myself during this day in a manner pleasing to you. Amen.
Feb 23, 8:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): thank you.
Feb 23, 8:25 PM
VisitationSiste: It is a prayer offering all to the Lord
Feb 23, 8:26 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good. Simple prayer.
Feb 23, 8:29 PM
VisitationSiste: last q How do the ideas discussed in this chapter affect our salvation?
Feb 23, 8:31 PM
Ruth (Guest): Friday afternoon I went into our local church to pray looking forward to a quiet time of “recollection” with Our Lord. A man came in, threw the cover off the grand piano, and then, trying to be polite, offered to go into the chore practice room. We got talking — a very broken man, addicted to narcotics, lost his house, lost his gf, poor relationship with . . .
Feb 23, 8:32 PM
VisitationSiste: I would say our salvation is in God’s hands and mercy but we contribute by our acts of love
Feb 23, 8:32 PM
VisitationSiste: I have to go now. Many blessings!!
Feb 23, 8:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): Thank you, good night Sr
Feb 23, 8:32 PM
Sr Jennifer (Guest): Good Night to all. Have a blessed week.
Feb 23, 8:33 PM
Blanca Villa: Thank you. Have a blessed week everyone.
Feb 23, 8:33 PM
Dawn (Guest): good night Sr. and Blanca, Ruth. thank you. and goodnight to everyone.
Feb 23, 8:34 PM
Ruth (Guest): He prayed with the piano, was affirmed and all the while I gazed at the crucifix and brought his needs, his suffering before the Lord, and we BOTH better for it.
Feb 23, 8:35 PM
Dawn (Guest): beautiful story Ruth
Feb 23, 8:35 PM
Ruth (Guest): were better.
Feb 23, 8:36 PM
Dawn (Guest): I believe there are opportunities all thru the day where we can see God and respond in love, like you did
Feb 23, 8:36 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good night, Dawn. Have a blessed week.
Feb 23, 8:37 PM
Dawn (Guest): Good night Ruth. God bless you.