Nothing should be done through routine but through clear choice and use of the will?” What if an action through routine occurs and the interior disposition does not follow? Can routine sometimes lead to a greater interior attitude? • Discuss the meaning of Saint Francis’s words: “Fire produces ashes and ashes feed the fire.” • Why must one be generous in order to reach the heights of Christianity and in order to follow the Rule? Where do we see examples of this in Scripture and the saints? • How is on
Apr 19, 6:59 PM
Guest8405 (Guest): How is one
perfected by the Rule?
• Jesus encouraged us to be perfect, even as his heavenly Father is perfect.
Why is it better to encourage others to strive for perfection, as St. Francis
says, rather than just to be perfect?
Apr 19, 7:00 PM
Guest8405 (Guest): Sun chat 730pm est april 19
Apr 19, 7:23 PM
VisitationSiste: hello guest 9277
Apr 19, 7:28 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Mary ann and Carol Glad to see you here Hope you are ok
Apr 19, 7:29 PM
Carol Ann: Happy Divine Mercy Sunday! I am here for a bit but will have to leave early for formation
Apr 19, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: What a beautiful Feast
Apr 19, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: We had a prayer service of Divine Mercy today
Apr 19, 7:30 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Yes – all is well🌷
Apr 19, 7:30 PM
Carol Ann: My favorite
Apr 19, 7:31 PM
VisitationSiste: extra special this year!
Apr 19, 7:31 PM
VisitationSiste: How do you find these questions about THE RULE re your own formation?
Apr 19, 7:31 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: So thankful that you are doing this – I miss daily mass
Apr 19, 7:32 PM
Blanca Villa: Hello everyone.
Apr 19, 7:32 PM
Carol Ann: Our pastor said we could do spiritual confession and Eucharist as long as we go to both as soon as possible
Apr 19, 7:32 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome Blanca
Apr 19, 7:33 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: If you fall into following rule without a rational intention – it removes free will from the action and this could lead to resentment.
Apr 19, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: We all are missing Mass- some days we do Communion service and others we watch internet Mass’
Apr 19, 7:33 PM
Carol Ann: I find that most of the Rules I have been introduced to have the same underlying theme–growing union with Christbas He transforms us
Apr 19, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: So it pays to learn all the meaning of any rule
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hello everyone. I’ve been on the computer practically all day.
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Everything has to be done with love – intentionally
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
Brian (Guest): Hi Sister Susan , Blanca , Mary Ann , Carol Ann , and Guest !!! God Bless You !!!
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: and it is a discipline that keeps us focused- yes with love
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: hi Ruth and Brian
Apr 19, 7:34 PM
Carol Ann: Hi Brian! Hi Ruth!
Apr 19, 7:35 PM
Brian (Guest): Hi Ruth !!! God Bless You !!!
Apr 19, 7:35 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Knowing the Meaning of the rules? No. Not necessarily
Apr 19, 7:35 PM
VisitationSiste: Q 1 Nothing should be done through routine but through clear choice and use of the will?” What if an action through routine occurs and the interior disposition does not follow? Can routine sometimes lead to a greater interior attitude?
Apr 19, 7:37 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: The rules may not be readily obvious – God often requires us to do things that are in our best interest – and we may not be able to discern the reason
Apr 19, 7:37 PM
Carol Ann: We must be present in the moment with that bit of our day and not playing host to wandering thoughts
Apr 19, 7:38 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: But learning to obey first and foremost because we should – out of love is enough
Apr 19, 7:39 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: It is like a dancer learning the moves so they are firmly and easily done
Apr 19, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: That’s a good example!
Apr 19, 7:40 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: But a loving I tension to make the moves grows as your spiritual maturity and love grows
Apr 19, 7:40 PM
Brian (Guest): Routine can keep us close too God Close to the Family of God !!!
Apr 19, 7:40 PM
Carol Ann: And as each step is mastered, the dance becomes more complex. Without the basics one cannot dance
Apr 19, 7:41 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: The free will and intention makes the action beautiful and radiant – not robotic
Apr 19, 7:42 PM
Brian (Guest): Simply Childlike Faith May be assisted by keeping Simple Routines that keep us close too God !!!
Apr 19, 7:42 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Anne(guest) I can see how routine is obedience, and obeying becoming habit
Apr 19, 7:43 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Having a naturally pliant and amenable disposition helps
Apr 19, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome Anne!
Apr 19, 7:44 PM
Brian (Guest): Hi Anne !!! God Bless You !!!
Apr 19, 7:44 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Hello! Praying for you up there in New York!
Apr 19, 7:45 PM
Ruth (Guest): Thank you 9277. Up there? Where are you?
Apr 19, 7:45 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Tennessee
Apr 19, 7:45 PM
Carol Ann: Beautiful Tennessee
Apr 19, 7:45 PM
Ruth (Guest): Nice. I bet it’s summer like. We have snow again tonight.
Apr 19, 7:46 PM
VisitationSiste: Discuss the meaning of Saint Francis’s words: “Fire produces ashes and ashes feed the fire.” Anne you have experience using ashes in your work!
Apr 19, 7:46 PM
Ruth (Guest): I can see the value of BOTH routine and intentionality.
Apr 19, 7:46 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Ruth !!!
Apr 19, 7:47 PM
Ruth (Guest): IF we had to form a specific intention for each action, it sure would slow down routine actions.
Apr 19, 7:48 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Prayer ignites our love of God
Apr 19, 7:48 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: And love of God ignites more prayer
Apr 19, 7:48 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Something new is created out of the old, as a spiritual life
Apr 19, 7:48 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Hi, everyone!
Apr 19, 7:49 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Why it’s so important to preserver in prayer
Apr 19, 7:49 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): I’m soooo happy there are actually people here! I’ve been here many times and the room was empty. It’s no fun chatting to myself lol.
Apr 19, 7:49 PM
Carol Ann: It is a repeating cycle, spiraling up
Apr 19, 7:49 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): How’s everyone doing?
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Yes-a spiral!
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Hello??
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): yes it feeds the fire and to want more
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): I see people chatting but no one is saying hi…??
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Carol Ann: Hi Phoenix what time have you been coming?
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Brian (Guest): When we go through various trials compare too fire it prepares us for future trials that may in fact be much worse but with God and our past experiences it goes quite easy !!!!
Apr 19, 7:50 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Oh hi, Carol. lol Was starting to think I was invisible. I’ve been coming at all times. No one is ever here. Until now.
Apr 19, 7:51 PM
Carol Ann: Phoenix, we meet on most Sundays 4:30-5:30Pacific time
Apr 19, 7:51 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Ah…so that’s why 6 days a week no one is here lol.
Apr 19, 7:52 PM
Ruth (Guest): Take, for example. washing dishes by hand. I can see that if many people had to work together at the same process, they might have to at some point come up with an intentional routine, so everyone works in the same direction, does it pretty much the same way. Then one is free to think about something else — even pray, and not figure out how to accomplish each step.
Apr 19, 7:52 PM
Carol Ann: If you sign up. For the fhat email you will receive the nexy
Apr 19, 7:52 PM
Carol Ann: Sundays excerpt on Thursday
Apr 19, 7:53 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): That’s okay. I can just come back next Sunday. It’s a shame though. Seems like a nice place and more people should be here the other 6 days.
Apr 19, 7:53 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: I love the analogy of the Fire of God’s love obliterating us into ashes
Apr 19, 7:53 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): its almost poetic
Apr 19, 7:53 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Mary: Exactly. Hence my name…the Phoenix rising from the ashes.
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: When I pray well I often feel like I get so small that I can disappear into God
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Carol Ann: Gold thats tested in fire. The point is what He will make us in the world to come
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Disappearing into God is the best place to disappear for sure.
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Continual transformation
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Into that Sacred place.
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): God is our Refuge.
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Hi Phoenix !!
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hi Phoenix 777 I guessone told you by now that normally we are here only Sunday evenings from 7:30 to 8:30 and there is a specific topic — emailed to us — that we attempt to address, although we often do just chat, learn to know one another. . .
Apr 19, 7:54 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Yes and only coming out when our hearts can turn
Apr 19, 7:55 PM
Phoenix777 (Guest): Amen.
Apr 19, 7:55 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Why must one be generous in order to reach the heights of Christianity and in order to follow the Rule? Where do we see examples of this in Scripture and the saints?
Apr 19, 7:55 PM
Carol Ann: Lazarus and the rich man, the widow’s mite
Apr 19, 7:56 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Because you give yourself completely away — you must disappear- to be united with God
Apr 19, 7:56 PM
Brian (Guest): God allows us to go through various trials soo that others can see His Love in how we are able to continue in Faith and Trust in God even when the trial gets Blazing Hot
Apr 19, 7:56 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: That is not something one can do on there own – no matter how much you try
Apr 19, 7:57 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Faith refining
Apr 19, 7:57 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: God must give you this grace
Apr 19, 7:58 PM
Ruth (Guest): God lives in Community.
Apr 19, 7:58 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Abraham – is willing to give up his most loved and cherished possession – his son!
Apr 19, 7:58 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Jesus gave Himself completely and we are baptized into Him we grow then in our generosity
Apr 19, 7:59 PM
Ruth (Guest): Amen.
Apr 19, 7:59 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sometimes immersion in the waters of baptism is compare to dying and rising.
Apr 19, 8:00 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: The Magdalene breaks the alabaster jar! Such a beautiful demonstration in of giving all – and only the best
Apr 19, 8:00 PM
Carol Ann: I seevit is already 5 so I must scoot to formation. God bless you!
Apr 19, 8:01 PM
Brian (Guest): God Bless You Carol Ann !!!
Apr 19, 8:01 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: By Carol
Apr 19, 8:01 PM
Ruth (Guest): Missing you Carol Ann. All the best. God bless you.
Apr 19, 8:01 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Thanks Carol for sharing
Apr 19, 8:02 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): What is each of our alabaster jards I wonder? Known only to ourselves and the Lord!
Apr 19, 8:02 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Quarantines are like going thru the fire for so many of us, isolation, obedience…for the good of others
Apr 19, 8:03 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: We have to really dig deep to discover that. What is the one thing that you can’t (won’t) give up?
Apr 19, 8:04 PM
Brian (Guest): God just puts actions of Obediance in our Hearts sometimes we don’t even know why but He shows a later a glimpse of why He asked for our obediance !!!
Apr 19, 8:04 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: I have enjoyed the quarantine-honestly. But when our power went out – that was not so great
Apr 19, 8:04 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Its a good test of whether one can be cloistered!
Apr 19, 8:06 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: I could not be a hermit. I would need a community – a family to be cloistered with. Caring for others is sort of an essential part of my make up
Apr 19, 8:07 PM
Ruth (Guest): I’m not finding it particularly difficult EXCEPT there are not only no Masses but no Communion services in my cloister. It is really a hermitage.
Apr 19, 8:07 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: And I would need community prayer and mass
Apr 19, 8:07 PM
Brian (Guest): I was suddenly deployed back to the Hospital I had not worked in 24 years . Lots of emotions with Pandemic , concern for bringing Covid home too family , decisions that had too be made . God has helped me a step at a time !!!
Apr 19, 8:08 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): You are on the front lines Brian!
Apr 19, 8:08 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): It gives peace of mind if obedience is followed thru with. You are courageous too Brian!
Apr 19, 8:09 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): A sign of a generous heart and deep faith
Apr 19, 8:09 PM
Ruth (Guest): But telephone and internet have made it very different from a cloister or a hermitage. They call it “social distancing” but actually it is physical distancing and more social contact than normal. I cannot take time to listen, respond to others as much as I
Apr 19, 8:10 PM
Ruth (Guest): ve been doing lately when I have to take quite a bit of time traveling to
Apr 19, 8:11 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Jesus encouraged us to be perfect, even as his heavenly Father is perfect. Why is it better to encourage others to strive for perfection, as St. Francis says, rather than just to be perfect?
Apr 19, 8:11 PM
Ruth (Guest): Church, stores, etc. And no doctor’s visits was a relief — but now I have a short “Web meeting ” coming up.
Apr 19, 8:12 PM
Brian (Guest): I could retire but I know that God wants me to be there now . Working with the Children of the Staff I worked with back in the day . Good to return to your roots . Worked first 11years in Hospital !!! Clients are doing well with all the restrictions !!! All the Prayers are really Helping !!!!
Apr 19, 8:12 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): The cloistered have much to teach us during this time and how to yet have joy
Apr 19, 8:14 PM
Brian (Guest): The World is on a Pilgrimage together . Many are coming closer too God!!!
Apr 19, 8:14 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: I miss hugging my friends
Apr 19, 8:15 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Striving is believing..how can we ever be perfect? Not a human thing without faith for our betterment.
Apr 19, 8:15 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Yes…a pilgrimage!
Apr 19, 8:15 PM
Ruth (Guest): Glad, Brian, it’s working out well. Do you wear PPE at work. A number of the homes for the mentally handicapped, prisons, and nursing homes here all had COVID-19 cases and deaths.
Apr 19, 8:15 PM
Brian (Guest): Just by being available to God !!!!
Apr 19, 8:17 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): I look at striving for perfection as striving for God for love of God and evangelizing helps bring this vison to others
Apr 19, 8:18 PM
Brian (Guest): We are wearing masks , face shields , and gloves Ruth . Sleeping in separate room for now with CPAP . Lots of new routines too keep family safe !!!
Apr 19, 8:19 PM
Ruth (Guest): I find that my own perfectionism sometimes gets in the way of “good enough” and FINISHING a task. Becoming more nearly perfect — as if I were anywhere near that — would probably include being LESS careful about some things, so that I can get done.
Apr 19, 8:20 PM
Ruth (Guest): Frontline workers AND their families have it tougher than most of the rest of us. Always in our prayers!
Apr 19, 8:21 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Yes I pray they do grow weary, that their fires are fed with hope as they generously give of themselves
Apr 19, 8:22 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): do not grow weary should say
Apr 19, 8:22 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: We are all striving for the same thing
Apr 19, 8:22 PM
Ruth (Guest): Check out Massena Catholic Community on Facebook or Youtube for some help with religious services, reflections, etc. Sung Divine Mercy Service today; I played it over and over, and was able to offer condolences in comments to a woman who just lost her mother, a friend of mine from Saranac Lake.
Apr 19, 8:22 PM
Brian (Guest): Thanks Ruth !!! I find that the most powerful Evangelistic tool now is too truly listen too others !!! You can see the help others are receiving from God while you are listening too them!!!
Apr 19, 8:23 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Has anyone come across any articles on a theological or spiritual nature on this current health crisis
Apr 19, 8:24 PM
Ruth (Guest): So true, Brian. Listen, Love, Pray: that is a “recipe” for healing service.
Apr 19, 8:24 PM
Brian (Guest): Amen Ruth !!!!
Apr 19, 8:24 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Richard Rohr been writing a lot about it
Apr 19, 8:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, sister, quite a few. I’ll look for them again and e-mail some to you.
Apr 19, 8:25 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): thanks- I have not seen anything
Apr 19, 8:27 PM
Ruth (Guest): I’m talking, at least briefly, with Dawn every day now. I hope she’s OK. Maybe just exhausted from so much “tube time” finding LIVE-stream Masses and Divine Mercy services. I’m surprised that she is not here.
Apr 19, 8:27 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Thank you for chatting here this evening. We continue to pray for each other and specialones for Brian
Apr 19, 8:28 PM
Brian (Guest): Have You Writen anything Sister Susan on the Crisis you are living in ground zero and you are a gifted writer . I would love to hear what you have to say to all of us through this !!!
Apr 19, 8:28 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Many blessings!
Apr 19, 8:28 PM
Ruth (Guest): Each of the sites wants you to sign up for updates, too. Sometimes they even block your screen until you do!
Apr 19, 8:28 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): Brian- if I had leisure- we are filling in for our employees- maybe eventually!
Apr 19, 8:28 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): yes I agree…you are in the middle of it and holding ground with your prayers!
Apr 19, 8:29 PM
Sister Susan Marie (Moderator): God bless!
Apr 19, 8:29 PM
Mary Ann Kronk: Good night all
Apr 19, 8:29 PM
Blanca Villa: Have a blessed and safe week everyone.
Apr 19, 8:29 PM
Guest9277 (Guest): Good night and stay well everyone!
Apr 19, 8:31 PM
Brian (Guest): You are always in my Prayers Sister Susan !!! Thank You For Your Loving Service for Our Lord and All of Us !!! Keep Shining For Jesus Everyone !!! God Bless You All and Thank You for All the Prayers !!!🙏🙏🙏
Apr 19, 8:33 PM
Ruth (Guest): It’s that time again. The hour goes by very quickly! Kairos rather than chronos.
Apr 19, 8:33 PM
Ruth (Guest): Peace and blessings to all of you.
Apr 19, 8:34 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good night. May this Divine Mercy Week be merciful to you and yours.