What is the fine line between doing our part and letting God take care of everything?2. What is the difference between a religious giving all to God and a married person giving all to God? Can only religious “give all without reserve”?3. How do we separate out our fleeting feelings from our desires to follow the will of God? In other words, how do we stop our feelings from interfering with us following the will of God? And, related to that, are feelings bad? Should we shun our feelings?4. Even though Sai
Jun 21, 2:25 PM
VisitationSiste: 4. Even though Saint Francis states that few reach perfect abandonment, why is it important to still aim for it? And how can one avoid scrupulosity or “perfectionism” when pursuing this aim?
5. What do you say is God’s will for those who seem to have only a few responsibilities in life? These might be children, some students, or older persons. Should they take on more responsibilities, or just change the channel on the remote?
Jun 21, 2:26 PM
VisitationSiste: Sun chat 730pm est June 21
Jun 21, 7:17 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome viewers!
Jun 21, 7:23 PM
VisitationSiste: Hello KMP
Jun 21, 7:24 PM
K M P: Hi, glad to be here!
Jun 21, 7:24 PM
VisitationSiste: We’re waiting for 730P- is this your first time at chat here?
Jun 21, 7:25 PM
K M P: I was here several months ago.
Jun 21, 7:25 PM
VisitationSiste: I hope you had a blessed Feast of the Sacred heart Friday and Immaculate Heart of Mary yesterday.
Jun 21, 7:27 PM
K M P: It is difficult to keep track of things without being able to go to church…
Jun 21, 7:27 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes that is so true- we had not had Mass since March
Jun 21, 7:28 PM
VisitationSiste: But praying the Divine Office keeps one in touch- but yes it is hard
Jun 21, 7:28 PM
VisitationSiste: Tonight we continue with St Francis de Sales Spiritual Conferences
Jun 21, 7:29 PM
K M P: I used to be pretty good at keeping Sunday a day of rest and prayer… that all got mixed up when we didn’t have mass… but now I’m getting back to ‘forcing’ myself to rest.
Jun 21, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: Things hopefully will improve.
Jun 21, 7:30 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): hi sister susan marie this is bettychao
Jun 21, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Betty!
Jun 21, 7:31 PM
VisitationSiste: First Question sort of fits in here: 1. What is the fine line between doing our part and letting God take care of everything?
Jun 21, 7:32 PM
K M P: God does take care of things, however he uses people to do part of his will. When one is married, it depends if ones partner interferes or not.
Jun 21, 7:33 PM
K M P: Some partners encourage, whereas others discourage…
Jun 21, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: Ah interesting viewpoint-
Jun 21, 7:33 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): i was read the bible jesus say why you dont live longer life why you worry other things he told his apotstles look the flower so beauty and preetty God take care of them anything just like he take care of us
Jun 21, 7:34 PM
VisitationSiste: So it is like a double obstacle when that happens- one can have one’s own resistance plus the discouragement of another- need more grace there
Jun 21, 7:34 PM
K M P: sometimes flowers get scorched in wildfires…
Jun 21, 7:35 PM
VisitationSiste: good metaphor- do you think one can be protected from that scorching
Jun 21, 7:36 PM
K M P: Jesus is always a good friend to share with. Some people are also good to share with, and some are not, if they are negative. I’ve learned to not share with certain people, but just to let them observe my actions…
Jun 21, 7:37 PM
VisitationSiste: welcome guest 1060
Jun 21, 7:37 PM
K M P: The Bible says something about not talking to fools… so you protect yourself by surrounding yourself by like-minded , good people.
Jun 21, 7:37 PM
VisitationSiste: 2. What is the difference between a religious giving all to God and a married person giving all to God? Can only religious “give all without reserve”?
Jun 21, 7:39 PM
K M P: I think if a person is married to a supportive person then he/she can also give all to God. And give all more easily than a single person, because a single person has a lot to be concerned about.
Jun 21, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: We can look to the married saints for examples
Jun 21, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: St Therese’s parents, and others
Jun 21, 7:40 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): jesus told his friends say blessed the poor of spirit for their is kingdom of heaven blessed who mourn for they will be comforted blessed are the meek for they will be inherit the earth blessed are the hunger and thirst for the righteousness for they will be filled blessed are they mercyful for they shown be showing mercy blessed are the pure of heart for the shall see the lord blessed are the peacemaker for the shall be call child of God. blessed are the who are prescuted because of the right action for
Jun 21, 7:40 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): their is the kingdom of heaven
Jun 21, 7:41 PM
K M P: Jane de Chantal was able to give a great deal to the poor because of the wealth of her husband…
Jun 21, 7:41 PM
bill harrison: hello everyone blessings on everyone
Jun 21, 7:42 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome Bill
Jun 21, 7:42 PM
bill harrison: Not staying but wanted to share this person with you..”Sister Emmerich Maillard”
Jun 21, 7:42 PM
Guest1060 (Guest): Again, wealth/middle class it is very, very complicater
Jun 21, 7:42 PM
VisitationSiste: Who is this Sister?
Jun 21, 7:42 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister susan i was listen to the gaspel sermon of worship and gaspel sermon a bible sermon and i chat with you
Jun 21, 7:43 PM
bill harrison: Hope everyone is well..God Bless you all and keep you.
Jun 21, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: I think St Jane did all she could while married and afterward as a widow
Jun 21, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: we grow in our selflessness
Jun 21, 7:45 PM
K M P: bless you too Bill. Yes, I think St. Jane did give all…
Jun 21, 7:45 PM
bill harrison: She lives in Medjugorje, in Bosnia-Herzegovina she is very inspiring and kind..she on a mission and has several youtube videos..
Jun 21, 7:45 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): Dear sr susan when I call the spain my friend is sister anna nubiola I know her for view years she accept me as a great grand daulghter now spain during corovirus she go to her family home I hope her health is good and alright becuase she is 89 years old please pray for her sister susan
Jun 21, 7:45 PM
VisitationSiste: Ok will pray
Jun 21, 7:45 PM
VisitationSiste: Now I know who you mean, Bill Thanks!
Jun 21, 7:46 PM
bill harrison: Have a wonderful day..Please keep me in your prayers thanks. Bye Bye
Jun 21, 7:46 PM
VisitationSiste: FGollowing God’s Will as completely as we can is a way to give without reserve to God. Married or otherwise, if we follow God’s will we give our utmost
Jun 21, 7:46 PM
VisitationSiste: 3. How do we separate out our fleeting feelings from our desires to follow the will of God? In other words, how do we stop our feelings from interfering with us following the will of God?
Jun 21, 7:48 PM
K M P: In the name of Jesus, make the enemy flee… sometimes the enemy is ourselves… our feelings, our mind…
Jun 21, 7:48 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister is the bible are the same i hear my mom say protastant bible and catholic bible teach are the same one because i read bove bible i saw it. and i ask my church priests say they are the same God word never change
Jun 21, 7:49 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): i read chinese and english bible everyday with my rosary and bible sermons
Jun 21, 7:50 PM
VisitationSiste: Being grounded in the Bible, Scripture reading also can keep us more focused on the desire to follow God, yes
Jun 21, 7:50 PM
K M P: some protestant Bibles removed several books… but the main books are all there.
Jun 21, 7:52 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): i most like is the worship the holy eucharist everytime when i see the body blood of christ picture i felt i want bow down and raised my hands and soul to say the lunguage of the holyspirit and pray
Jun 21, 7:52 PM
K M P: If you look at an older protestant Bible, those seven books are there, usually in a section titled apochrapha
Jun 21, 7:53 PM
VisitationSiste: 4. Even though Saint Francis states that few reach perfect abandonment, why is it important to still aim for it?
Jun 21, 7:54 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister what do you think what i say about the holy eucharist
Jun 21, 7:55 PM
VisitationSiste: It is fine Betty
Jun 21, 7:55 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): even i see the holy eucharist cross i felt i raised my hand and worship i let the holy spirit guide me my soul to jesus and enjoy his love
Jun 21, 7:55 PM
K M P: Worship of the Holy Eucharist is one of the Very special parts of being Catholic.
Jun 21, 7:55 PM
VisitationSiste: Maybe we need to define abandonment
Jun 21, 7:56 PM
VisitationSiste: There is a great book called Abandonment to Divine Providence
Jun 21, 7:56 PM
K M P: I really like that book!
Jun 21, 7:57 PM
K M P: If it rains or is sunny, it’s because of God, so we should rejoice either way!
Jun 21, 7:58 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes!
Jun 21, 7:58 PM
VisitationSiste: I made a retreat with that book one time.
Jun 21, 7:58 PM
VisitationSiste: Took it slowly- very powerful
Jun 21, 7:58 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): thieir has a one book about the mass I read that book when I was little the mass is Gods word not anyone word but we use the holy mass to enjoy the last supper and sacrificed to God by jesus becuase jesus sacrifieced himself as a gift from God to us
Jun 21, 8:00 PM
Guest2869 (Guest): Hi – joining late, but abandonment to God’s will have been big in my life lately
Jun 21, 8:00 PM
K M P: God knows the WHOLE picture, but we just see a small piece. So we need to accept what IS, because it is God’s will.
Jun 21, 8:01 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome 2869
Jun 21, 8:01 PM
K M P: Jesus really gave us a wonderful gift! Enabling us to go to Heaven even though we are not worthy.
Jun 21, 8:01 PM
Guest2869 (Guest): learning just how much I am trying to stay in control of my own future, most of the “guarantees I thought were there, have been stripped away
Jun 21, 8:01 PM
VisitationSiste: Just heard a homily today or yesterday on that- Msgr Harrington- the whole picture vs parts- I think it was this morning!
Jun 21, 8:02 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister their has some monastery like the dominican sisters of mary mother of eucharist they give me a website for me to join their retreat what action I should to join this retreat that make me so holy and pleasing to the lord in the any retreat from any catholic church
Jun 21, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: I guess there are no guarantees in life except the one of God’s never endig love for us
Jun 21, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes try that retreat
Jun 21, 8:03 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister I got to tell you my nephew got high fever and sick what prayer I should pray for him to jesus and mary
Jun 21, 8:03 PM
K M P: Retreats are wonderful.
Jun 21, 8:04 PM
Guest2869 (Guest): I remember thinking years back that Jesus has kind of cheated in giving everything with his death because he knew he would be resurrected and go to heaven – God recently asked (not audibly) if I still thought that since he has given us the same inside information of life and heaven if we will simmply give him everything
Jun 21, 8:04 PM
Carol Ann: Hello, Everyone!
Jun 21, 8:04 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi How was formation?
Jun 21, 8:05 PM
VisitationSiste: Pray Betty, Jesus I trust in you
Jun 21, 8:05 PM
Carol Ann: It was good, except I’m farther behind in the book than my assistant
Jun 21, 8:06 PM
Guest2869 (Guest): luckily he knows our limitations and as most good parents, only asks what we are capable of, but as we grow and become more capable, more is asked
Jun 21, 8:06 PM
K M P: Even though Jesus knew he would be resurrected, the pain would have been excruciating…
Jun 21, 8:07 PM
K M P: what book Carol???
Jun 21, 8:07 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister gaudia a polish sister also give me divine mercy chaplet prayer my mom told me anyone need to pray chaplet divine mercy this is powerful prayer for healing
Jun 21, 8:08 PM
Carol Ann: We are reading two, The Cloud of Unknowing. Which I can’t put down, and Come to the Quiet about how to grow into contemplation
Jun 21, 8:09 PM
K M P: thx
Jun 21, 8:09 PM
VisitationSiste: Cloud of Unknowing is very powerful in a soothing way
Jun 21, 8:09 PM
K M P: Are you going through a Salasian formation?
Jun 21, 8:09 PM
Carol Ann: The Divine Mercy Chaplet is my favorite
Jun 21, 8:10 PM
K M P: I like Mary, undoer of knots… (I also like all crafts with yarn.)
Jun 21, 8:11 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): i was writing so many the euchrast prayer book pray to the body of christ that has a holy scripture in it If I have time I can write more and sent to anyone who want jesus as his saveir
Jun 21, 8:11 PM
Carol Ann: I am in formation with the Brothers and Sisters of Charity, littleportion.org
Jun 21, 8:11 PM
Carol Ann: I am loving Cloud, hits me right where I need it
Jun 21, 8:12 PM
K M P: nice.
Jun 21, 8:12 PM
Carol Ann: KMP, you make me smile. I love to knit too! But my tangle seems to keep getting bigger
Jun 21, 8:13 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): Dear sister susan marie if I have time I love to write more prayer book that has holy eucharist prayer in it we use our soul to accept christ in holy eucharist
Jun 21, 8:13 PM
VisitationSiste: Are you writing a prayer book Betty?
Jun 21, 8:13 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): I use to write the prayer book before a whole stock like bookshelf
Jun 21, 8:15 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): if I tell you that sister you never belive me that I have so much time to worte those prayer book like a stock like bookshelf
Jun 21, 8:15 PM
VisitationSiste: That is wonderful!
Jun 21, 8:15 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): my mom used to use my prayer book that i wrote when she pray to the lord before long time ago
Jun 21, 8:15 PM
VisitationSiste: q 5 5. What do you say is God’s will for those who seem to have only a few responsibilities in life?
Jun 21, 8:16 PM
Carol Ann: That is so wonderful Betty
Jun 21, 8:16 PM
K M P: to pray
Jun 21, 8:16 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): I only do this is not only come from me but is come from the work of the lord teach me how to write.
Jun 21, 8:17 PM
Carol Ann: If you have few responsibilities there is more time for active ministry and for prayer
Jun 21, 8:17 PM
K M P: nice. The world can always use more prayers.
Jun 21, 8:18 PM
VisitationSiste: Again I think the Lord’s will is the key- he assigns the responsibilities in effect, sometimes thru others of course
Jun 21, 8:19 PM
VisitationSiste: I don’t think it is a matter of “taking on” responsibilities, but like the word indicates- it is a RESPONSE with one’s ABILITY, a response to God’s will or His call, even thru another
Jun 21, 8:20 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Ruth!
Jun 21, 8:20 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister susan marie do you know why I started to write so many prayer books becuase my church parish father charles we call him msgr charles I saw him he always write so many prayer books so I started to write my own prayer books I started my own prayer books when I was 11 year old I write by my own
Jun 21, 8:20 PM
Carol Ann: Ruth, how are you?
Jun 21, 8:20 PM
K M P: Yes. Using your time, talent and treasure for God.
Jun 21, 8:21 PM
Carol Ann: That is remarkable Betty. I wish we could see the books
Jun 21, 8:22 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): I was started to become church alter girl serve the lord when I was 11 year old some of my friends from the public elementry school they go to my church so I was work for father charles in my life before he retired and I move to los angeles
Jun 21, 8:23 PM
K M P: can you email your books?
Jun 21, 8:23 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): yes
Jun 21, 8:23 PM
anne goetze: Hello Sr Susan Marie
Jun 21, 8:23 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Anne!
Jun 21, 8:24 PM
K M P: please do, when you have time. weavingpuzzles@gmail.com
Jun 21, 8:24 PM
Carol Ann: Hello Anne
Jun 21, 8:24 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): but I will type my prayer in the email to our belove friend sister susan marie
Jun 21, 8:24 PM
VisitationSiste: Sure!
Jun 21, 8:25 PM
VisitationSiste: We have finished the basic questions but have some time anything else you want to discuss?
Jun 21, 8:26 PM
K M P: sometimes God’s will comes to us as a whisper… so we have to have quiet time so we can hear it!
Jun 21, 8:26 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): dear lord jesus I trust you I give offered sacrificed with thankyou for you die for me on the cross for my sins I recive you love just in holy eucharist and I belive that mass you offered you holy spirit to us please take care of our life let us be living in the holy life because you love for us through jesus the lord I pray alelluia Amen
Jun 21, 8:26 PM
Carol Ann: Do you think what is going on in the world is the Holy Spirit’s prompting? Not in the methods, but in the search forvjusticr?
Jun 21, 8:26 PM
anne goetze: I am late to join in so would like to hear a recap about your thoughts for God’s will in our lives
Jun 21, 8:27 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister susan what do you think about this prayer that I write
Jun 21, 8:27 PM
VisitationSiste: Fine
Jun 21, 8:27 PM
Ruth Cassin: Sorry I missed last week and most of this today. Thanks for your kind greetings. I’m alive and well and grateful that our churches in the North Country have opened up for public worship again — with many restrictions, but is working.
Jun 21, 8:28 PM
Guest2068 (Guest): sister susan I must go now may jesus bless you all
Jun 21, 8:28 PM
VisitationSiste: Recap: in short- His Will is everything; the difficulty- truly knowing it
Jun 21, 8:28 PM
K M P: I think we, as humans, were abusing the world… too much pollution. and this is a wake up call, to get us to do what we can, like working from home, to save the earth.
Jun 21, 8:28 PM
VisitationSiste: Bless you too Betty
Jun 21, 8:29 PM
K M P: thank you Betty, nice prayer.
Jun 21, 8:29 PM
VisitationSiste: There is a spiritual mystery in this whole event
Jun 21, 8:29 PM
anne goetze: I wonder about during this time …of where and how to be responding to the many needs for not just my personal life but how to help others. And how to discern what is God’s will for me to ask upon?
Jun 21, 8:29 PM
VisitationSiste: and each geneation nees to learn the lessons of justice because alot of people don’t seem to learn from history
Jun 21, 8:30 PM
VisitationSiste: Sometimes it’s circumstantial Anne, just what comes along your way
Jun 21, 8:30 PM
Carol Ann: In Cloud, the editor in the introduction talks about the great enlightenment that came after the Great Plague, when Cloud was written. Sounds like our times!
Jun 21, 8:31 PM
K M P: I think it is helping people to examine their spirituality… why did they go to church, was it for God, or just to put in a social appearance.
Jun 21, 8:32 PM
Ruth Cassin: Is Cloud a book?
Jun 21, 8:32 PM
Carol Ann: That could be seen too in the number of people who go to any lengths to attend Mass
Jun 21, 8:32 PM
VisitationSiste: The Cloud of Unknowing
Jun 21, 8:33 PM
Carol Ann: Sorry Ruth, it’s short for The Cloud of Unknowing
Jun 21, 8:33 PM
Ruth Cassin: Ah. That I recognize.
Jun 21, 8:33 PM
VisitationSiste: God’ Will of course is in the commandments, that is more direct but the choices we make in eveyday things sem to be ours, yet when you become spiritually fine tined more and more one sees God-incidences rather than coincidences
Jun 21, 8:33 PM
VisitationSiste: fine tuned
Jun 21, 8:34 PM
VisitationSiste: Dear friends I need to leave now. Have a blessed week!
Jun 21, 8:34 PM
K M P: you also!
Jun 21, 8:34 PM
Carol Ann: Thank you Sr Susan Marie
Jun 21, 8:35 PM
anne goetze: Trusting in the Lord is to know His hand is over all of us! Bless you too dear Sr and all
Jun 21, 8:35 PM
Ruth Cassin: A blessed week to all of you.
Jun 21, 8:36 PM
Carol Ann: Have a blessed week everyone!
Jun 21, 8:37 PM
K M P: When I get upset at what someone else is doing, I’ve been trying to turn it around, and focus on what I’ve done in the past… and thank God that I had as good of parents as I had, and therefore was raised in a good way. Some other people we’re as lucky.
Jun 21, 8:37 PM
K M P: Blessed week to you all also!
Jun 21, 8:37 PM
Carol Ann: That is good. A practice of charity
Jun 21, 8:38 PM
K M P: We can only control ourselves… and hopefully lead by a good example.
Jun 21, 8:39 PM
Carol Ann: That is true. And we must always keep our focus on Jesus
Jun 21, 8:39 PM
K M P: I don’t get as upset anymore at other peoples choices. But I still have a ways to go!!!
Jun 21, 8:39 PM
Carol Ann: I think we will each struggle with our thoughts as long as we are alive
Jun 21, 8:40 PM
K M P: yes
Jun 21, 8:40 PM
K M P: Jesus is a good friend. He understands when it seems like no one else does.
Jun 21, 8:40 PM
Carol Ann: Always!
Jun 21, 8:42 PM
K M P: I like when I’m reminded about God. Like any time I think about the number three, I think of the trinity.
Jun 21, 8:43 PM
Carol Ann: It is good to have these reminders that prompt us to pray throughout the day. Just short, simple prayers
Jun 21, 8:43 PM
K M P: There are so many reminders out there, if we just slow down a little bit. All the things God created… Amazing!
Jun 21, 8:45 PM
K M P: As I drive to work, I usually say a decade of the rosary. It’s a nice special time.
Jun 21, 8:45 PM
Carol Ann: It’s true. When we think about how He has put our sins away from us, as far as the east is from the west, you have to stop and think about the impossibility of measuring that
Jun 21, 8:45 PM
Carol Ann: And it never hurts to have Mary’s protection on the road
Jun 21, 8:45 PM
K M P: true
Jun 21, 8:49 PM
K M P: Good night. May your guardian angels watch over you.
Jun 21, 8:49 PM
Carol Ann: Good night, and may they watch over you as well