Why is willing always emphasized as important over doing? Is doing, then, unimportant? What lesson was to be learned by the Israelites taking 40 years to get to the Promised Land? If Jesus was so in sync with God’s will, why did He ask in the Garden of Gethsemane to not have to face His suffering? Does this mean He was out of sync with God’s will at that point? Why is it so important to surrender to our given circumstances, especially if God does not relieve us from a given trial? If God is
Sep 27, 10:57 AM
VisitationSiste: If God is eternal and infinite and perfect and without need, why is it so important for us to do what “pleases” God? Isn’t God already eternally pleased?
Do you find it surprising that Jane de Chantal, a saint today, would be so troubled in spirit over such difficulties in her life?
Sep 27, 10:57 AM
VisitationSiste: Sun chat Sept 27 730pm est
Sep 27, 6:59 PM
Carroll V (Guest): Good evening everyone- Duty calls me to work tonight. My heart will be with you until I can join you in oerson next week. Have a blessed week!
Sep 27, 7:17 PM
VisitationSiste: welcome viewers
Sep 27, 7:23 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Its Anne…signing in as a guest as password having issues.
Sep 27, 7:23 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Anne- you are in now!
Sep 27, 7:26 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): What does giving in to circumstances relveal..seeking God’s will in and thru it?
Sep 27, 7:27 PM
VisitationSiste: St Francis de Sales felt Divine Providence guides everything- so accepting one’s circumstances, even difficult ones, brings us somehow closer to God’s Will for us, even if those circumstances were not God’s signified, or direct Will He uses it to bring us where He wants us
Sep 27, 7:30 PM
VisitationSiste: WElcome viewers!
Sep 27, 7:31 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): I have felt many emotions going thru the trial of cancer, wondering where God wants me. Seeking yet waiting.
Sep 27, 7:32 PM
Guest649 (Guest): HI sister susan marie kasprzak this is betty chao.
Sep 27, 7:32 PM
VisitationSiste: I think that is the perfect disposition!
Sep 27, 7:32 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Betty!
Sep 27, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: God’s will is mysterious but He tries to conform us to His Son, Jesus, who also suffered and feared it, yet in the end accepted it
Sep 27, 7:33 PM
VisitationSiste: Q1: Why is willing always emphasized as important over doing? Is doing, then, unimportant?
Sep 27, 7:36 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Willing is setting the mind and body to then ‘do’, as a specific goal.
Sep 27, 7:36 PM
K M P: Doing is important… doing good willingly, I think, is very important.
Sep 27, 7:37 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes good examples.
Sep 27, 7:37 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sister susan I did join the mass online everyday and I studied bible and hold rosary I did pray to the sacred heart of jesus but today I join the chaplet of the divine mercy mass today in the morning sometime I join the chinese mass from the catholic church taiwan online the mandiren chinese lunguage mass. and yesterday I join the fr wang retreat that retreat talk about the secrad heart of jesus and the healing he is also talk about the visitation and st francis desales and st margrette mary those saints
Sep 27, 7:37 PM
VisitationSiste: We need to search for God’s Will, and then, do it!
Sep 27, 7:37 PM
VisitationSiste: Welcome Rose and KMP
Sep 27, 7:37 PM
Rose Silva: Thank you
Sep 27, 7:38 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): How to know it is God’s will and not confuse with my own?
Sep 27, 7:38 PM
Guest649 (Guest): a reading from the letter of st paul to titus.
Sep 27, 7:38 PM
K M P: Thanks. I’m glad to be here!
Sep 27, 7:39 PM
K M P: If you are infused with God’s word, then your will/his will can be the same…
Sep 27, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: Discernment is not easy but as we keep at it, it gets clearer. Sometimes a sign to confirm one’s decision or discernment is given, maybe thru a friend or spiritual director. Asking for God to show His Will with prayer leads to understanding it. But it is nevr too easy
Sep 27, 7:40 PM
VisitationSiste: Good and holy method, KMP. Thanks!
Sep 27, 7:41 PM
K M P: talking with a priest helps. He can more clearly see things because his emotions are not involved…
Sep 27, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: When something happens to us that takes us out of our usual routine, it can be a “pause” for a spiritual reason,and spiritual growth as well
Sep 27, 7:43 PM
K M P: I was SURE when a priest told me that what I was doing was not God’s will… I was just SURE that he was wrong… but after emotions calmed down, I saw that what the priest knew to be true, really was.
Sep 27, 7:43 PM
VisitationSiste: Q2 may give perspective here: What lesson was to be learned by the Israelites taking 40 years to get to the Promised Land?
Sep 27, 7:44 PM
Guest649 (Guest): this book come from titus 2:11-14. beloved the grace of God has appearing to us.and save all the traning us to reject those godless way and wordly desire and to live temperately ,just and devoutly in this age,as we wait the blessed and hope the appearance of the glory of the God and lord jesus christ ,who gave himself for us and deliver us from the sin and lawlessness and to clean for himself a people as his own.eager to do good deeds and serve the lord.Amen
Sep 27, 7:45 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): To stay in God’s will, believe and persevere that He is trustful, that His promises are always fulfilled
Sep 27, 7:46 PM
VisitationSiste: humility of heart- to accept another’s insight’s four our life!
Sep 27, 7:47 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Yes that is so somforting
Sep 27, 7:48 PM
K M P: It is very difficult to get our own emotions out of the way enough, so we can see things more clearly.
Sep 27, 7:49 PM
VisitationSiste: Do you think Our Lord went through that?
Sep 27, 7:50 PM
K M P: His human part did.
Sep 27, 7:51 PM
Rose Silva: Yes. He was fully human and fully divine. The Agony revealed He struggled with accepting God’s will over His own.
Sep 27, 7:51 PM
VisitationSiste: So I guess we should not be too hard on ourselves and know we may have to go thru that same struggle as Jesus did
Sep 27, 7:52 PM
Rose Silva: Yes. Well said.
Sep 27, 7:52 PM
Rose Silva: But not so easy to follow.
Sep 27, 7:53 PM
K M P: Holy Indifference… very hard to accept sometimes.
Sep 27, 7:53 PM
Rose Silva: Absolutely
Sep 27, 7:54 PM
VisitationSiste: Why is it so important to surrender to our given circumstances, especially if God does not relieve us from a given trial?
Sep 27, 7:54 PM
Guest649 (Guest): A reading from the book of Isaiah the prophet. isaiah 9:1-6. the people who walk in darkness have see the great light of the lord. upon those who dwelt in the land of the lord of gloom a light has shone.you have brought them abundant joy and blessing and hope as the rejoice and before you as at the harvest as people make merry when dividing spoils.for the yoke that burdened them and the pole on their shoulder and the rod of their taskmaster and you have smashed,as on the day of midian. for every boot that
Sep 27, 7:54 PM
K M P: In our misery, we grow closer to Christ.
Sep 27, 7:56 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes we recognize Him, hopefully, in the circumstances and call out to Him
Sep 27, 7:56 PM
K M P: Christ says that his burden is light… it doesn’t seem like it to me.
Sep 27, 7:56 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Search for God in All things
Sep 27, 7:57 PM
Guest649 (Guest): alelluia I will proclaim to you the greatness new of great hope and joy a savier is come to us that is jesus. alelluia Amen
Sep 27, 7:57 PM
VisitationSiste: Thanks Betty!
Sep 27, 7:58 PM
VisitationSiste: But even as Christ carried His Cross, it was not light to Him either. Sowe need to delve more deeply into what He means by that “light burden”
Sep 27, 7:59 PM
K M P: I don’t understand that… but I have been thinking about misery lately… if we had no misery, God would still be God, however there would be no reason for Mercy.
Sep 27, 7:59 PM
K M P: So our misery let’s God show us his Mercy.
Sep 27, 8:00 PM
VisitationSiste: That’s a good insight!
Sep 27, 8:01 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Hi Everyone!
Sep 27, 8:01 PM
Guest649 (Guest): a reading from the book prohept isaiah. Isaiah 62:11-12.see the lord of the proclaim to the end of the earth say to the children of zion you savier come here is the rewards with him .his recompenses before him.they shall be call the holy people the redeemed of the lord and you shall be called frequented city is not be forsaken. the words of the lord thanks be to God.
Sep 27, 8:01 PM
K M P: hey!
Sep 27, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: Hi Carol Anne!
Sep 27, 8:02 PM
VisitationSiste: If God is eternal and infinite and perfect and without need, why is it so important for us to do what “pleases” God? Isn’t God already eternally pleased?
Sep 27, 8:03 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: He is eternally pleased, but it is possible for us to displease Him by sinning
Sep 27, 8:04 PM
Guest649 (Guest): the lord is king of the kings lord of lords:let the earth sing and rejoice and be glad .the heaven proclaim his justice and rightness and all the people see his glory and coming.alelluia Amen
Sep 27, 8:04 PM
K M P: I think our sins make God very sad.
Sep 27, 8:04 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): To give us a relationship with Him, have His presence as we do His will
Sep 27, 8:05 PM
K M P: Just like we are proud of our children’s success, God wants us to choose, of our own free will, to follow him. And when we, finally, do, I think he is very happy & proud of us.
Sep 27, 8:05 PM
VisitationSiste: Yes and love always wants to please the beloved
Sep 27, 8:06 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: I believe He is too
Sep 27, 8:07 PM
Guest649 (Guest): today I listen the audio bible on cd name call the words of the promise in the whole day.because we need to have spiritual friendship with jesus and his teachings. this audio bible is cds is a whole set. I got that in the half price books store that cost $60 that i have buy. I listen that cds set in the whole day and I help mom do all the job in home.
Sep 27, 8:07 PM
K M P: God loves us so much that he allows us to make mistakes. Even though it hurts him.
Sep 27, 8:08 PM
VisitationSiste: That;s great Betty!
Sep 27, 8:08 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: He corrects us too
Sep 27, 8:08 PM
VisitationSiste: Like a parent watches the child make a mistake?
Sep 27, 8:08 PM
K M P: That’s nice to be able to listen while you work or drive…
Sep 27, 8:09 PM
K M P: Yes, God is a very loving Father.
Sep 27, 8:09 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sr susan I really love the chaplet of the divine mercy of jesus through the chaplet divine mercy mass and prayer that can help us to get near to jesus and his loving heart.
Sep 27, 8:10 PM
Guest649 (Guest): Sr susan I really want to tell you amazing testmony.
Sep 27, 8:10 PM
VisitationSiste: ok
Sep 27, 8:10 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: He corrects us through others mostly. But sometimes you get that blast of intuition that something was not right
Sep 27, 8:11 PM
VisitationSiste: From our own soul, right?
Sep 27, 8:11 PM
K M P: Very true. I feel really lucky to be Catholic. There are sooooo many things in place to help us grow closer. Fasting, feast days, Saints, special prayers, all kinds of lay groups…
Sep 27, 8:12 PM
K M P: I always think of thunder as God telling us to shape up!
Sep 27, 8:12 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Yes Sister. A couple of weeks ago I did something that was not right that I did not recognize in the moment, but when I got home and walked through the front door it hit me likevs ton of bricks, what I did wrong
Sep 27, 8:13 PM
Guest649 (Guest): when I go to the hollywood was museum in downtown los angeles I saw the last supper and crucifixion of jesus and I saw the last supper. jesus his hand has a great light shine and upond me and I did say to jesus just like st faustina say jesus I love you divine mercy I will open my heart to you and believe you are the savier of my heart and I will worship you and bow down my nees. I did say that to him when his hands light shine upon me. bettychao
Sep 27, 8:13 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Hmm, I thought thunder was horses galloping in heaven
Sep 27, 8:13 PM
VisitationSiste: Beautiful, Betty!
Sep 27, 8:14 PM
VisitationSiste: Do you find it surprising that Jane de Chantal, a saint today, would be so troubled in spirit over such difficulties in her life?
Sep 27, 8:14 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Betty, how beautiful!
Sep 27, 8:14 PM
K M P: nice. love those images!
Sep 27, 8:14 PM
Guest649 (Guest): thanks let us go peace and love and serve jesus
Sep 27, 8:15 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): I think it is also comforting to know that a saint is being honest in her quest and recognizing that struggles exist
Sep 27, 8:15 PM
K M P: I think Saints, and really good people, are more troubled than the wicked amoung us.
Sep 27, 8:16 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sr susan why sr jennifer koo didnt join us today I wander?
Sep 27, 8:16 PM
Guest649 (Guest): I miss her very much.
Sep 27, 8:16 PM
VisitationSiste: I think she is busy
Sep 27, 8:17 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: The wicked are busy with their own pursuits and not of the things of God. They never go below the surface
Sep 27, 8:17 PM
K M P: true.
Sep 27, 8:18 PM
VisitationSiste: Saints are very sensitive souls
Sep 27, 8:18 PM
K M P: with a life that has less drama in it from superficial things, there is more time & energy to delve deeper.
Sep 27, 8:19 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Yes, and our focus is no longer on ourselves
Sep 27, 8:19 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sr susan please pray for my friend my nun friend use to be accept me as her grand child her name is Sr anna nubiola this september 29 is her 90 year old big birthday she live in the monastery of saint benet monastery in monserrat spain she is a spainish osb benedictine nun but she speak french and spainish and english.
Sep 27, 8:21 PM
K M P: how nice! I hope I live to be that old, and that wisdom comes with age!
Sep 27, 8:21 PM
VisitationSiste: I will pray for her
Sep 27, 8:22 PM
VisitationSiste: St Jane suffered internally a lot- but that is how her soul became refined- God allowed all that- He works with you, in you, and you feel it
Sep 27, 8:22 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: And be like the Psalm says, still bearing fruit when we sare old
Sep 27, 8:23 PM
K M P: yes! And the eucharist helps us to physically sense his presence and healing in our body.
Sep 27, 8:24 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Yes, He is our companion in our sufferings. I try to remember to be likewise…to be with His sufferings, and that of this world.
Sep 27, 8:25 PM
K M P: once after I mentioned to someone that they were going in the wrong direction and that I didn’t think God was pleased, and then I was quiet. And then I felt God’s presence strongly.
Sep 27, 8:25 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Did the person listen to you?
Sep 27, 8:26 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sr susan: sr anna nubiola teach me everything about the bible and jerusalem before I go to jerusalem and she told me anything about the bible land and most thing she told me keep pray to the holy spirit and keep studied and be focus in the bible if you dont understand that the bible words ask the jesus and holy spirit give you knowlege and wisdom to understand to follow jesus through his teaching she told me in the phone.
Sep 27, 8:26 PM
K M P: hmmm… they are trying to change their life. It’s such a slow, difficult process.
Sep 27, 8:27 PM
K M P: I find it difficult to pray to the holy spirit.
Sep 27, 8:27 PM
Guest2581 (Guest): Hello! From what I understand reading some of the saints, thee is a darkness that must be gone through to purify our souls so Jesus must truly live in us. So many saints had the most difficult times and physical problems.throughout their lives, like a purgatory on earth, to prepare for thier place in eternity. It is no surprise that St Jane went through many dificulties.
Sep 27, 8:27 PM
VisitationSiste: so true
Sep 27, 8:27 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: That is so true…it puts a whole new light on suffering
Sep 27, 8:28 PM
K M P: like fire helps gold to be purified…
Sep 27, 8:28 PM
Guest2581 (Guest): Which saint talked about the darkness of the soul? St John of the Crss? St Theresa of Avila?
Sep 27, 8:28 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Yes, it is a slow process, sometimes painful
Sep 27, 8:29 PM
Guest649 (Guest): sister susan marie and anyone in the chat I have to go now and I have to leave next sunday I will not be in the chat because I have to go to church mass so I will chat with you next next sunday.good bye everyone and jesus bless you all go and peace and serve jesus.bettychao
Sep 27, 8:29 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: St John of the Cross wrote a poem about it
Sep 27, 8:30 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: God bless you, Betty Chao!
Sep 27, 8:30 PM
K M P: yes, both saints. “Dark Night of the Soul” poem.
Sep 27, 8:30 PM
Guest2581 (Guest): I will have to find it. I find him very difficult to read. He is so far above me.
Sep 27, 8:31 PM
VisitationSiste: Good night all Blessed week!
Sep 27, 8:31 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Thank you Sr! God bless you!
Sep 27, 8:31 PM
Guest2581 (Guest): Good night, Everyone.
Sep 27, 8:31 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Have a blessed week!
Sep 27, 8:32 PM
K M P: https://catholicexchange.com/dark-night-soul
Sep 27, 8:32 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: That’s a great resource, thank you!
Sep 27, 8:33 PM
K M P: goodnight!
Sep 27, 8:33 PM
Carol Ann Chybowski: Good night, have a blessed week
Sep 27, 8:34 PM
Guest7450 (Guest): Goodnight!