What does it mean to spend time with God?
What does it mean to utterly abandon ourselves to God?
(From the third paragraph): How can people in different vocations have different virtues?
St. Francis pointed out virtues that religious should have. What kind of virtues should the layperson have?
Why is it so important to train in little virtues before practicing the heroic virtues?
How can we be more like children in our walk of faith?

Apr 23, 1:26 PM

We can start with the first discussion question: What does it mean to spend time with God?

Apr 25, 7:27 PM

Bettychao (Guest): Yes but mom will decide to go back to California during the end may because she have to let her leg bone get relax and she has a good doctor and physical therapy in Kansas

Apr 25, 7:28 PM

VisitationSiste: Obviously in a Monastery we spend alot of time in prayer with God, but the question goes deeper than that I think

Apr 25, 7:28 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Spending time with God… relaxing all the filters and worries of the day. Inviting Him to take those so that we can be together more fully.

5, 7:28 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): surrender 25, 7:29 PM

VisitationSiste: being with, with one’s whole being 25, 7:30 PM

VisitationSiste: loving Him, letting Him love us

Apr 25, 7:30 PM

VisitationSiste: Of course Betty- we will be praying for this for your mom

Apr 25, 7:30 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Yes. Not holding anything back. I have to consciously let go of the worries that I would otherwise keep (as if I can do anything about them).

30 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Yes. Not holding anything back. I have to consciously let go of the worries that I would otherwise keep (as if I can do anything about them).

Apr 25, 7:30 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I will pray for your Mom, Betty.

Apr 25, 7:31 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Yes — letting Him love us! Sometimes that’s hard. I don’t know why..

VisitationSiste: Sometimes we feel unlovable

pr 25, 7:31 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Um yeahhhhhhhhh that’s for sure.

7:32 PM

VisitationSiste: Knowing by faith He loves us and then trying to be conscious of the ways Hw shows it, sometimes simple things

Apr 25, 7:32 PM

VisitationSiste: welcome viewers

33 PM

Bettychao (Guest): Ask the divine mercy Jesus to help you to know him love him and serve him just like those saints and read more bible go to mass and Christian Bible sermon and read more saints book so you will know how to lo how to love the lord and serve the lord in you life . Bettychao 34 PM

VisitationSiste: God is in silence and we can feel Him within, in the silence, sometimes PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Cultivating silence in the midst of busy days and work… I feel like this is the hardest part of being a laywoman. I don’t have family, but I teach full time at an independent Catholic school (St. John Bosco Schools) and it’s 50-55 hours a week many weeks. I have a hard time “shutting off” work stuff.

Apr 25, 7:35 PM

VisitationSiste: we never waste our time when spent with Jesus

Apr 25, 7:36 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): This notion is a wonderful relief — just sitting in front of the Blessed Sacrament with oatmeal for brains haha

Apr 25, 7:36 PM

Bettychao (Guest): I think ewtn online media web I think I did try and it is work from the computer. Alelluia praise the lord for he did help me find it. Bettychao

Apr 25, 7:36 PM

VisitationSiste: That is a real challenge Elena, but when you get home maybe reviewing your day with Him is one way to incorporate all that won’t immeduately leave your mind

5, 7:37 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I like that. Thank you for the suggestion!

Apr 25, 7:37 PM

VisitationSiste: Hi Ruth Yea! You got in!

:39 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I don’t know anyone here. I’m N00bz haha

Apr 25, 7:39 PM

VisitationSiste: St Francis de Sales says every 15 min or so think of God, it helps to keep Him in your present moment

VisitationSiste: We can introduce ourselves. I am in Brooklyn Visitation Monastery

:40 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): What is your name? Other than “Visitation Siste”

Apr 25, 7:40 PM

VisitationSiste: SR Susan Marie

:40 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Ah! Ok. Hello Sr. Susan Marie. 40 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Ah! Ok. Hello Sr. Susan Marie.

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Bettychao (Guest): Hi sr Jennifer every time when I listen the www.m4christ.net Chinese catholic sermon website he is talk about the holyspirit and how to recive holly spirit in you heart I listen to that all the time that is so helpful thank the lord help me to find this website. For sr Jennifer koo from bettychao this website help me studied more bible teaching everyday that is my Bible studied everyday.

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Sr Jennifer (Guest): I am also in Brooklyn Visitation Monastery

41 PM

Ruth (Guest): Hello Elena, Welcome. I’m Ruth. I live in the Adirondack Park way upstate New York, near the Canadian border.

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Sr Jennifer (Guest): O good for you Betty

:42 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Hi, Ruth! Ah you’re way up there. I’m in Rochester. I teach middle school at St. John Bosco Schools in E. Rochester.

Apr 25, 7:42 PM

Ruth (Guest): Hi Sr. Jennifer, Sr. Susan Marie, Bettychao. :41 PM

Sr Jennifer (Guest): I am also in Brooklyn Visitation Monastery

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Ruth (Guest): Hello Elena, Welcome. I’m Ruth. I live in the Adirondack Park way upstate New York, near the Canadian border.

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Sr Jennifer (Guest): O good for you Betty

Apr 25, 7:41 PM

Sr Jennifer (Guest): Hi viewers

Apr 25, 7:42 PM

VisitationSiste: Betty is in Kansas right now

Apr 25, 7:42 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Hi, Ruth! Ah you’re way up there. I’m in Rochester. I teach middle school at St. John Bosco Schools in E. Rochester.

Apr 25, 7:42 PM

Ruth (Guest): Hi Sr. Jennifer, Sr. Susan Marie, Bettychao.

VisitationSiste: next q: What does it mean to utterly abandon ourselves to God?

Apr 25, 7:44 PM

VisitationSiste: so we go from spending time with God to utter abandonment to Him

Apr 25, 7:44 PM

Ruth (Guest): We’ll be praying for your Mom, Betty.

Apr 25, 7:45 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): To hold nothing back; to accept all He gives us, especially when things don’t seem to be going in the “right” direction.

Apr 25, 7:45 PM

Ruth (Guest): And you. You’ve learned so much since we first “met.” Congratulations.

46 PM

Karen (Guest): To accept also what He doesn’t give us

Apr 25, 7:46 PM

VisitationSiste: Living His Will completely, not ours

Apr 25, 7:46 PM

Bettychao (Guest): Go to church and pray the rosaries and accepts the blessed sacrement adoration and listen and pray more the most important is listen to the gaspel faith and studied the Bible and put Jesus in ruler of you life. Jesus tell us i m the way to guide you to the truth and walk with me and you will recive my holly spirit and see the vision and goodness of God.

Apr 25, 7:46 PM

VisitationSiste: Hi Karen!

Apr 25, 7:46 PM

Ruth (Guest): Yes, Elena. I agree. But living it! That takes a lot of practice.

:46 PM

Karen (Guest): Hi!!! Glad I made it :47 PM

Bettychao (Guest): Ask the lord to help you he is the guider.

Apr 25, 7:47 PM

VisitationSiste: He gives us those opportunities

Karen (Guest): Hola Everyone!!! I have a friend from Venezuela visiting! God is teaching me patience!

Apr 25, 7:48 PM

Ruth (Guest):

Apr 25, 7:49 PM

VisitationSiste: The word that gets me in the question is utterly, not just to abandon but to utterly abandon

Apr 25, 7:49 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Hi, Karen!

49 PM

Bettychao (Guest): One of my church sister love to pray the chaplet of divine mercy this words is also from Jesus no one can write and created the divine mercy only divine Jesus and his vision words and teaching

Apr 25, 7:49 PM

Ruth (Guest): That was supposed to be a smiley face.

Apr 25, 7:49 PM

VisitationSiste: That must be great to have company from afar

Apr 25, 7:50 PM

Karen (Guest): interesting choice of words… absolutely abandon feels different than to utterly abandone

Apr 25, 7:50 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Yes, lots of practice! Utterly.. yes. Completely empty of ego. It’s a bit scary to me, honestly.

:51 PM

Karen (Guest): Yes. She has been thru so many struggles, yet is so happy and peaceful. utterly peaceful!

Apr 25, 7:51 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes I agree but cant define the difference, in what it consists of, absolutely vs utterly

51 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Maybe “absolutely” has an automatic positive connotation that “utterly” lacks. 5, 7:52 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): we use it as a positive response, as a “yes” in casual conversation

Apr 25, 7:52 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes that feels right, utterly almost sounds like deperatly but not quite

7:53 PM

Karen (Guest): one definition says “extreme degree”

Ruth (Guest): Completely, entirely, with every ounce of one’s being.

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

Karen (Guest): I like that. “every ounce”

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

Carol (Guest): Hi Everyone!

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

VisitationSiste: What a goal- not there yet

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

VisitationSiste: Hi Carol!!

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Hi, Carol!

Apr 25, 7:53 PM

Ruth (Guest): Yes, “absolutely” has lost its clout in casual conversation.

:54 PM

Bettychao (Guest): When my church bishop blessed my Christian Bible and he say Bible can’t change bible is the same bible is the teaching of God will help you and guide you in the right way so keep open the Bible and studied his teachings our church bishop tell me when he blessed my niv bible he tell me read the Bible that is much important my mom always have bible studied in the zoom everyday with our church friends. And mom join the church meeting every Friday in zoom from my church. :54 PM

Karen (Guest): kind of like: if you fill a jar with sand, it’s absolutely full. Then you pour in some water, and it’s utterly filled.

:55 PM

VisitationSiste: Meaning no more can get in? 25, 7:55 PM

Ruth (Guest): Karen, good example. , 7:55 PM

Ruth (Guest): Karen, good example.

Apr 25, 7:56 PM

Ruth (Guest): Absolute zero is the temperature at which molecules have NO motion.

Apr 25, 7:56 PM

Carol (Guest): The jar was full before you added water. What was full is now even more full

57 PM Karen (Guest): Yes. to be peaceful no matter what is happening, because God is in control. And to be comfortable with His decisions.

Ruth (Guest): And we need to do — somehow — the opposite, EMPTY ourselves completely, so that HE can fill us. Hmmm.

5, 7:58 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I must decrease; He must increase. r 25, 7:58 PM

Carol (Guest): There’s a little hole in the bottom where the sand drains out

Apr 25, 7:58 PM

VisitationSiste: Very interesting

Apr 25, 7:58 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes Betty thank you!

59 PM

VisitationSiste: Only He can do this emptying in us, completely I think, 7:59 PM

VisitationSiste: Only He can do this emptying in us, completely I think

Apr 25, 7:59 PM

Ruth (Guest): Ha ha! That’s an hour glass you describe, Carol.

Apr 25, 7:59 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Don’t know about any of you, but I cling to problems and worries too much. I *try* to give them to the Lord, but you know… I always try to take them back. He’s always on with me about “I’ve got you!” and I’m like “Yes… but…” And He’s like “Trust Me.”

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

VisitationSiste: q 3 when you are ready, no rush! : From the third paragraph): How can people in different vocations have different virtues?

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Carol (Guest): Well, the hourglass stays full too

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Bettychao (Guest): I want eat the dinner is seven o’clock in our time it is my dinner time i need to leave now and say good bye and God bless you all . Bettychao

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Carol (Guest): Me too, Elena

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Karen (Guest): It’s an illusion that he isn’t already in us. He has already filled us. We are so dillusional we think we have power…

Bettychao (Guest): I want eat the dinner is seven o’clock in our time it is my dinner time i need to leave now and say good bye and God bless you all . Bettychao

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Carol (Guest): Me too, Elena

Apr 25, 8:00 PM

Karen (Guest): It’s an illusion that he isn’t already in us. He has already filled us. We are so dillusional we think we have power…

Apr 25, 8:01 PM

VisitationSiste: Blessed week dear Betty!

Apr 25, 8:01 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Exactly, Karen! Feeling alone or abandoned, or that we somehow have to “do it” is an illusion. Get behind me, Satan!

Apr 25, 8:01 PM

Ruth (Guest): Sometimes I think that God has allowed me to live this long, because I am a slow learner, and He knows I want to get it right before I die: to love, to communicate the LOVE that He is, living in me.

Apr 25, 8:01 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Bye bye, Betty! God bless!

2 PM

Karen (Guest): I think nuns and priests can focus in and pray better because they aren’t troubled by so many worldly thingsPM

Karen (Guest): I think nuns and priests can focus in and pray better because they aren’t troubled by so many worldly things.

Apr 25, 8:02 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Q 3 How can people in different vocations have different virtues?… I agree with Karen to a point. I know priests who may not have “worldly” thing to trouble them, but there is a lot of other stuff for them to get sidetracked from prayer.

Apr 25, 8:02 PM

VisitationSiste: In some respects maybe but then all the little things get in the way!

What kind of virtues should the layperson have?
8:03 PM

Ruth (Guest): Bye, Betty. Enjoy your dinner.

Karen (Guest): whereas maybe a mom has a virtue of hard work because she has to get things done for her children

Apr 25, 8:04 PM

Carol (Guest): I think we must practice all if them, but certain ones will be needed more. Kike Moms and patience

04 PM

Carol (Guest): I think we must practice all if them, but certain ones will be needed more. Kike Moms and patience

Apr 25, 8:05 PM

VisitationSiste: we can all try to live in the present moment, but for me it might be in silence and for a mom or worker at the office, in conversation and interaction

Apr 25, 8:06 PM

Karen (Guest): yes, by practicing all you get better at all (hopefully). And being better at one helps you get better at others.

7 PM

Ruth (Guest): Even living alone, I have to learn patience — especially with myself, since I’ve become so clumsy . . .

Apr 25, 8:07 PM

VisitationSiste: or gentleness, my opportunities will be in community and otjers in family, work or school

:08 PM

Karen (Guest): it is sooooo difficult for me to stay in the present moment. My mind pulls me back to the past, and tortures me with old stuff that can’t be changed.

Apr 25, 8:08 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes St Francis often speaks about being patient with ourselves

8 PM

Carol (Guest): We each have a different station and calling, yet at the base of it, we must all do the same thing

Apr 25, 8:08 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): It’s hard for me to work where I do when all I’ve wanted is to live in silence. Chaos and noise are very hard – almost painful – to be around.

Apr 25, 8:09 PM

Carol (Guest): I find it that way too

Apr 25, 8:09 PM

VisitationSiste: Hand the old stuff over to God during the present moment and then you are living the present moment

Apr 25, 8:09 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): But I can see the Lord is helping me grow in patience and having to “dig deeper” to find that well where He is already.

Apr 25, 8:09 PM Ruth (Guest): Funny, I never saw, in a list of virtues, “efficiency” but in America, that is almost an idle.

VisitationSiste: Hello LuAnn

Apr 25, 8:09 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Ruth! You’re so right. Get it done yesterday and get it done perfectly. I put that pressure on myself.

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

LuAnn (Guest): hello

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Hi, LuAnn!

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

Carol (Guest): That and the ability to do twelve things at once, truly present to nine

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

VisitationSiste: that is also interesting Ruth, efficiency- doing the best one can and being who you are and being that well- is that close?

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

Carol (Guest): I meant none, but nine is an interesting typo

Apr 25, 8:10 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Wow… I’m horrible with multitasking. It’s wasteful and makes my head spin.

11 PM

Ruth (Guest): Hello LuAnn.

Apr 25, 8:11 PM

LuAnn (Guest): but as a single mother, multi-tasking is often what is required

Apr 25, 8:11 PM

VisitationSiste: q: Why is it so important to train in little virtues before practicing the heroic virtues?

2 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I thought Ruth meant that our culture idolizes “efficiency” to the detriment of being in the moment, doing it well, being ourselves, etc.

Apr 25, 8:12 PM

Carol (Guest): Yes, the grace is in each moment

8:12 PM

LuAnn (Guest): not necessarily many things at once, but the ability to switch from one thing to another in an instant, and not lose track of the things not yet finished :12 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): LuAnn, God bless you. PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I am amazed at single parent families. 8:14 PM

LuAnn (Guest): There is a pressure on oneself though to accomplish the impossible and my studies in the Salesian spirituality have been a life-saver to my peace of mind and ability to keep God in the center PM

Ruth (Guest): LuAnn, scientists say that that is all that anyone who thinks he’s multitasking is actually doing: switching back and forth between tasks, missing bits and pieces of each. 8:15 PM

VisitationSiste: That is the beauty of the Salesian spirit, Lu Ann. So glad it helps! We can all benefit as we grow in it

Apr 25, 8:15 PM

Karen (Guest): little virtues tend to be around us all the time. Whereas the heroic ones might just happen once in a life time.

Apr 25, 8:16 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): LuAnn, Here here! Yes to what Ruth said. The problem with what appears to be “multi-tasking” is that things get dropped. I do it constantly; I’m not built for such activity.

:16 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Also, little virtues train us to respond when those heroic virtues are needed. Like lifting small weights before we’re ready for heavy weights. 17 PM

VisitationSiste: Good example too

Apr 25, 8:17 PM

Carol (Guest): We are all expected to do the jobs of three people. I wish we would relearn that work is for people, not people for work

5, 8:17 PM

Ruth (Guest): Through this cancer experience I feel I have actually GROWN in peace — despite all that is so disagreeable. I am grateful to God, and to a good oncologist at this end. And everything was so rushed, that I did not have time or energy to inform myself . . . 17 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): God bless you, Ruth.

Apr 25, 8:17 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Here, here, Carol!

Apr 25, 8:18 PM

VisitationSiste: All the traveling you had to do and all the treatments- and here you are, after being locked out- you are filled with peace!

9 PM

LuAnn (Guest): but when reading to one child and another is into mischief, finishing the book is not an option before correction, gathering the stray child and continuing the book. In many ways, I often see myself as the child and God as my parent and realize the immense love He must have for me when I know the depths of my imperfect love for my children PM

VisitationSiste: I wonder though how St Francis would have advised re multi tasking 9 PM

LuAnn (Guest): There is a pressure on oneself though to accomplish the impossible and my studies in the Salesian spirituality have been a life-saver to my peace of mind and ability to keep God in the center PM

Ruth (Guest): LuAnn, scientists say that that is all that anyone who thinks he’s multitasking is actually doing: switching back and forth between tasks, missing bits and pieces of each. 8:15 PM

VisitationSiste: That is the beauty of the Salesian spirit, Lu Ann. So glad it helps! We can all benefit as we grow in it

Apr 25, 8:15 PM

Karen (Guest): little virtues tend to be around us all the time. Whereas the heroic ones might just happen once in a life time.

Apr 25, 8:16 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): LuAnn, Here here! Yes to what Ruth said. The problem with what appears to be “multi-tasking” is that things get dropped. I do it constantly; I’m not built for such activity.

:16 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Also, little virtues train us to respond when those heroic virtues are needed. Like lifting small weights before we’re ready for heavy weights. 17 PM

VisitationSiste: Good example too

Apr 25, 8:17 PM

Carol (Guest): We are all expected to do the jobs of three people. I wish we would relearn that work is for people, not people for work

5, 8:17 PM

Ruth (Guest): Through this cancer experience I feel I have actually GROWN in peace — despite all that is so disagreeable. I am grateful to God, and to a good oncologist at this end. And everything was so rushed, that I did not have time or energy to inform myself . . . 17 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): God bless you, Ruth.

Apr 25, 8:17 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Here, here, Carol!

Apr 25, 8:18 PM

VisitationSiste: All the traveling you had to do and all the treatments- and here you are, after being locked out- you are filled with peace!

9 PM

LuAnn (Guest): but when reading to one child and another is into mischief, finishing the book is not an option before correction, gathering the stray child and continuing the book. In many ways, I often see myself as the child and God as my parent and realize the immense love He must have for me when I know the depths of my imperfect love for my children PM

Carol (Guest): St Francis would likely tell us to stop it 5, 8:20 PM

LuAnn (Guest): one thing at a time, one after another… M

Elena Cambio (Guest): I mean, sometimes it’s inevitable, like when you’re cooking, or when parenting. But ideally, yes… one thing done well and then move on to the next thing. PM

Karen (Guest): Seems he liked simple / little things…it’s many little things that have the bigest impact. Catching my brain before it goes backwards into a deep hole… making it stop at the edge of the hole instead of diving in… that would help. 25, 8:21 PM

Carol (Guest): Amen! 21 PM

Ruth (Guest): LuAnn, are you a teacher, too, or a parent?

Apr 25, 8:22 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I call that “going down the rabbit hole” Karen. It’s so hard sometimes, not to get suckered in. I have a couple people I reach out to as prayer warriors when I feel myself slipping in. It really helps.

Apr 25, 8:22 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes cutting it short- one of our Sisters Sr Mary de Sales Chapuuis,said that

8:22 PM

LuAnn (Guest): a parent, trained in social work, but currently working at McDonald’s with my children grown and out of the house 23 PM

Karen (Guest): Elena – I think your lack of ability to multitask is actually a blessing. I go in circles all over the place, and don’t really get anything done. Whereas a friend is able to focus in… and actually get things done, one after the next. While my things stay partially completed for decades.

Apr 25, 8:24 PM

LuAnn (Guest): part of my difficulty right now is not knowing what my duties of state even are

5, 8:24 PM

Ruth (Guest): Thank you. Reminds me that living in the moment does not mean forgetting the past. PM

Ruth (Guest): Thank you. Reminds me that living in the moment does not mean forgetting the past.

Apr 25, 8:25 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Karen — I teach middle schoolers at a school with many issues; I’m teaching 5 classes plus holding administrator duties. I can’t even see straight at the end of the day. My inability to get things done and switch gears every 7 seconds has definitely impacted my mental health (this was my first year at the school).

Apr 25, 8:25 PM

VisitationSiste: almost like being single but not quite?

Apr 25, 8:25 PM Karen (Guest): no. not forgetting. just detaching from it

Carol (Guest): Oh Elena, I will pray for you!

8:26 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I have discerned at a couple of monasteries… I have felt that calling… but I have student loan debt that keeps me working and spinning like a whirling dervish. I love the school and the kids, and the fact that we have a Salesian spirit, but OH MAN… Thank you, Carol!

Apr 25, 8:27 PM

Carol (Guest): Sr, is the foundation that helps postulants pay off debts still out there.

Apr 25, 8:27 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Speaking of single, Sister, what is the “vocation” to single life? The Church doesn’t talk about that much other than consecrated virgin.

Apr 25, 8:27 PM

Ruth (Guest): Karen, I have to chuckle. You describe my situation to a T. I am trying to make room in my house for an organ I purchased/gave a donation for years ago; the church and rectory and community room, the whole property has been sold. So I won’t be able to go over there to practice any more. Well, the stuff I am attempting to move: it is like an archaeological excavation!

Apr 25, 8:27 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Oh — trust me — I’ve been through all of that. Those organizations won’t help me because of the size of my debt. Thank you… not looking for problem solving so much as being able to live in the present that God has given me.

Apr 25, 8:28 PM

LuAnn (Guest): I pray that I am modelling peace and joy and obedience to the mostly younger group I am working with and have seen some impact over the course of the past 6 weeks working there. For now, this is where I am…

Apr 25, 8:28 PM

Karen (Guest): maybe if you reframe what you are doing… you are patiently dealing with what is in front of you… what is in front of you changes. But you are not really changing…

29 PM

VisitationSiste: Yes Mater Ecclesiae and the other fund is still out there cant think of the name at present

Apr 25, 8:29 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Thank you, Karen. I’ll mull that over.

Apr 25, 8:29 PM

VisitationSiste: Laboure society that is it

Apr 25, 8:29 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Laboure Society. I’ve looked into both

Apr 25, 8:29 PM

VisitationSiste: Some talk of the single vocation but as to whether much theology has been written I do not know but it is considered a legitimate state of life

Carol (Guest): It is getting so hard to seek monastic life. I felt like I would never measure up to even ask

Apr 25, 8:30 PM

VisitationSiste: Consecrated virgins etc are more towards religious state I think

Apr 25, 8:30 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I know there are some consecrated diocesan hermits out there.. but most bishops don’t want to deal with it

Apr 25, 8:30 PM

Carol (Guest): Yes, and then their is the domestic expression of www.littleportion.org

Welcome :: The Brothers and Sisters of Charity at Little Portion Hermitage / Monastery (Berryville, AR)

r 25, 8:31 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): Thank you, Sister. Sometimes the “single life” seems like the null state of not-married and not-a-nun.

Apr 25, 8:31 PM

VisitationSiste: That is a very possible avenue

1 PM

Elena Cambio (Guest): I will check them out, thank you, Carol.

Apr 25, 8:32 PM

Carol (Guest): You’re welcome. I am very happy and in the temporary professed stage. I will be happy to answer questions if you need

God bless you!

Apr 25, 8:39 PM

Karen (Guest): 6. How can we be more like children in our walk of faith?

Apr 25, 8:39 PM

Karen (Guest): did we discuss that question?

Apr 25, 8:40 PM

Karen (Guest): sometimes children simply trust their parents – to provide food / shelter / whatever…

Apr 25, 8:40 PM

Ruth (Guest): Thank you, I will pray for you, too. And can certainly “use” your prayers.

Apr 25, 8:41 PM

Karen (Guest): I feel too scattered to pray… That’s not good.

Apr 25, 8:41 PM

Ruth (Guest): I don’t think we got to question 6.

Karen (Guest): there are soooo many different types of children… some are not stressed. but then others are suicidal.

Apr 25, 8:43 PM

Karen (Guest): I think they are talking about the free / loving / non-stressed child.

Apr 25, 8:43 PM

Ruth (Guest): Karen, bring Him you feeling scattered. It is fascinating what prayer can be: just offering yourself right where you are — even if it is a “piece” here and a “piece” there.

Apr 25, 8:44 PM

Karen (Guest): I like that idea.

Apr 25, 8:44 PM

Karen (Guest): Even just part of a prayer.

Apr 25, 8:45 PM

Karen (Guest): I was trying to say a novena, but it was too stressful. So I told God I was just going to do it in a different way, but it was a way that worked for me. God understands.

Apr 25, 8:45 PM

Karen (Guest): I can’t even imagine going through cancer treatments.

Apr 25, 8:46 PM

Karen (Guest): that must have been so tough.

Apr 25, 8:47 PM

Karen (Guest): I just realized how late it is….. goodnight. & May God send you a special Blessing.