Discuss this line: “it costs no more to sigh in God and to God and for God than to sigh and complain without making good use of it.” If we’re going to take the energy for something, why not do so as a prayer? Do you find it difficult to be still in times of prayer? What advice can you share for learning to be still and quiet?Did you expect St. Francis to tell this woman to rise up above the pain and stick to her prayer schedule? Discuss his character as a pastor that instead he gave the counsel that he did.T
Jul 17, 7:07 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Take some time to explore this quote from the letter: “you must make a really brave effort and not allow talk and the pointless tyranny of social contacts to deprive you of such a rare treasure as that of speaking heart to heart with your God and maker.” Are social contacts a bad thing? What is he saying here?Consider the story of the prophet Elijah (I Kings 19:9-13), where he escapes into the wilderness, is led to Mount Horeb, and he discovers that The Lord was not in the wind, earthquake or fire, but in t
the still small voice. Why is this great and majestic God who created the vast cosmos, with powerful supernovas and blackholes, why is he so subtle in how he communicates to us?
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VisitationSister (Guest): q 1 Discuss this line: “it costs no more to sigh in God and to God and for God than to sigh and complain without making good use of it.”
Jul 17, 7:31 PM
Bettychao (Guest): Our preacher Mr Xiao ping Su is teach us the how to pray to the Holy Spirit in right way
Jul 17, 7:31 PM
Bettychao (Guest): He is talking about the holy spirit
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Carol (Guest): I find it is better to complain in prayer rather than just complain. I leave those complaints with Him so He can sort them out
Jul 17, 7:32 PM
Bettychao (Guest): And he teach us how to pray in the right way to Jesus and he guide us to pray in the zoom
Jul 17, 7:32 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): The Holy Spirit can help us tonight
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan did you monastery has any mass online in the public only online
Jul 17, 7:33 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Heart to heart talks with God can be about anything in our heart, complaints included
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VisitationSister (Guest): No nothing on line no wifi
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VisitationSister (Guest): Hi Ruth
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Carol (Guest): Ruth!
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan why the sacred heart mass is online from you monastery
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Carol (Guest): I give things to Him and He keeps them. And handles them
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VisitationSister (Guest): That was not from our Monastery but from the parish of a priest friend when pandemic was bad
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VisitationSister (Guest): He takes all in our hearts and helps us with each sentiment, and we do not have to fear that we are honest with Him even if it is a complaint 7, 7:36 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): If we’re going to take the energy for something, why not do so as a prayer?
Jul 17, 7:36 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hi Betty, Sr. Susan, CarolCarol, that is wonderful. .
Jul 17, 7:36 PM
Carol (Guest): And if I dont understand how I feel He helps me sort it out
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Carol (Guest): Thats great news Betty
Jul 17, 7:37 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sometimes it feels like he throws the ball of issues back in my court or maybe I unwittingly take it back.
Jul 17, 7:37 PM
Patti (Guest): Great Reading this week.
Jul 17, 7:38 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): I think positive energy so to speak, is from the Holy Spirit who speaks from within us
Jul 17, 7:38 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Yes very relevant reading
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VisitationSister (Guest): Why do you think God sends it back Ruth?
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Carol (Guest): LOL Ruth. I often ask Him since He is the Undoer of Knots, why dies the ball keep getting bigger
Jul 17, 7:39 PM
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VisitationSister (Guest): ? Do you find it difficult to be still in times of prayer? What advice can you share for learning to be still and quiet
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Jul 17, 7:41 PM
Bettychao (Guest): My two Catholic sisters in spain they tell me be very careful we will pray for you all
Jul 17, 7:41 PM
Carol (Guest): Yes, I can find it hard to be still. I try to quiet myself with something else first, to make a break from the day
Jul 17, 7:42 PM
Bettychao (Guest): When you medietation when you pray you have to keep you mind focus in prayer
Jul 17, 7:42 PM
Patti (Guest): Practicing the Jesus Prayer for many years. Makes it background music in my heart. Can also restore my stillness.
Jul 17, 7:42 PM
Ruth (Guest): I’m not sure, sister. Maybe because a lotof the problems@
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Carol (Guest): That is a great prayer! 3 PM
Bettychao (Guest): Listen to Jesus hymns that will help you I do read the Bible and listen to Jesus hymns name call hillsong worship hymns that will guide me to pray
Jul 17, 7:43 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Did you read the Way of the Pilgrim to learn the Jesus prayer or learn some other way
Jul 17, 7:44 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Great Betty
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Carol (Guest): Yes, worship music is always good to use
tychao (Guest): Because worship music is a concert of prayer guide people to jesus
Jul 17, 7:45 PM
Patti (Guest): It was that book indeed. Right now I’m reading “First Initiation into Carthusian Life.
Jul 17, 7:45 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): I do not find it hard to be still EXCEPT when I am agitated. Then it takes a long time to settle down
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Jul 17, 7:46 PM
Ruth (Guest): are practical, material issues, or because he has no hands and feet except those of the people who accept Him and let his spirit guide them, and there are wither not enough of those around or I fail to make my needs known to enough of them or clearly enough, or in this society everyoone is too busy or overwhelmed.
Jul 17, 7:46 PM
Bettychao (Guest): I have some music cd like Jeremy camp and Mathew west those are the people who sing Jesus prayer worship songs
Jul 17, 7:46 PM
Patti (Guest): The more time I spend in prayer, the easier it is to be still.
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Bettychao (Guest): I did join the Mathew west Christian concert in the poining the right way Christian church in Kansas City plaza
Jul 17, 7:47 PM
Carol (Guest): I like them too Betty. Have you heard Casting Crowns.
Jul 17, 7:47 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Carthusians are very silent and almost like hermits. Have you been to a Carthusian Monastery? I am not even sure where they are
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VisitationSister (Guest): ? What advice can you share for learning to be still and quiet?
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Carol (Guest): Carthusian Njns
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Carol (Guest): I mean nuns
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Patti (Guest): Good link.
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Bettychao (Guest): Their is a big monastery in spain they accept female monks and Benedictine nuns in that monastery that monastery name call Montserrat is closed to Barcelona spain that is I got three nuns from that monastery
Jul 17, 7:51 PM
Bettychao (Guest): I know them from the Catholic online and I join them in their school zoom online and I talk to them
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Patti (Guest): Silence and solitude are central to them.
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VisitationSister (Guest): Thanks for link!
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Ruth (Guest): For me it is to just be in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. That helps a lot. But it is hard or impossible to get there often these days, in a rural area, with my vehicle not running. And spending hoirs telephoning trying to get a ride to church, even for Sundsy
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Ruth (Guest): Sunday Mass.
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Ruth (Guest): hours.
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Carol (Guest): Thats rough Ruth
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Patti (Guest): Even your trying can be a prayer I think.
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Ruth (Guest): hours.
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Bettychao (Guest): Thanks for the link I just saw it this is the monastery Montserrat life look like that
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Mary (Guest): Good evening everyone..
Jul 17, 7:55 PM
Bettychao (Guest): The Main monastery in spain
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Carol (Guest): Hi Mary
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Patti (Guest): What I love about the Visitandines is the tender gentleness of the approach.
Jul 17, 7:56 PM
Mary (Guest): Hi Carol..love topic this evening & prayer in suffering
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Bettychao (Guest): Patti is that main monastery in spain that monastery
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VisitationSister (Guest): Welcome Mary
Jul 17, 7:56 PM
Ruth (Guest): That is true, Patty. He knows I want to be with him. Last week I drove 60 miles to get to Mass a half hour early only to find a sign on a locked door saying that Mass was cancelled.
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VisitationSister (Guest): Yes Visitandines charism which we try to live is gentleness and humility PM
Mary (Guest): The Lord knows our heart & intnetions so we should go easy on ourselves
Jul 17, 7:58 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): q Did you expect St. Francis to tell this woman to rise up above the pain and stick to her prayer schedule? Discuss his character as a pastor that instead he gave the counsel that he did.T
Jul 17, 7:58 PM
Carol (Guest): We were talking about Carthusian spirituality so I found that link
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Carol (Guest): Prayer is how we remain in touch with Jesus
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Patti (Guest): I did expect a rigorous direction to stick to her schedule. The pastoral response was kind and gentle. :01 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): I think we should take this counsel to heart whenever we suffer pain :01 PM
Bettychao (Guest): I got big back pain
Jul 17, 8:01 PM
Patti (Guest): A good reminder Sister. Thanks!
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VisitationSister (Guest): St Francis was a very wise and sensitive pastor, down to earth and spiritual, practical and understanding :02 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): St Francis was a very wise and sensitive pastor, down to earth and spiritual, practical and understanding
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Mary (Guest): No..I believe short ejaculations or sighs to God is form of prayer, God know our heart intentions at that time of sufferin..,just saying “Jesus help me” is brief conversation with the Lord..and our suffering becomes redemptive in a way that we accept as the Father’s will at that time..
Jul 17, 8:03 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): He was person oriented and worked with the individuality of each soul
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Mary (Guest): Amen! 8:04 PM
Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan did you guide to the retreat before
Jul 17, 8:04 PM
Patti (Guest): How I pray for such a spiritual father. I am without a director at the moment.
Jul 17, 8:05 PM
Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan where are you
Jul 17, 8:05 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): No I do not guide retreats but I can speak with retreatants
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VisitationSister (Guest): We will join you in prayer for that Patti PM
VisitationSister (Guest): We will join you in prayer for that Patti
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Ruth (Guest): Hi Mary. Yes and I was blessed by at least facing the altar in the locked church, having a wifi signal and this iPad, and being able to sign in on a Mass celebrated by my former Pastor some 50 miles from there. And my old truck had not uet broken down since I have a new battery in it. After Mass I bought a little food for a picnic, went exploring the area and found a municiple beach and went for a swim. Overall a pleasant, relaxing day. Also there were a lot of other people who were surprised by the l
Jul 17, 8:06 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Pray to St Francis de Sales to intercede for you too for a director
Jul 17, 8:06 PM
Bettychao (Guest): We have some church nuns guide the retreat
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Patti (Guest): Thanks so much.
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Mary (Guest): When I want time to be totally silent with the Lord to pray & listen I go to Adoration chapel in my area & spend few hours..if He says nothing to me, I just keep Him company 7 PM
Ruth (Guest): locked doors, including some more handicapped than I am, so I was able to go see what the sign said for all of us and also chat with them.
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Patti (Guest): I will pray to St. Francis as well.
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VisitationSister (Guest): True prayer!
Take some time to explore this quote from the letter: “you must make a really brave effort and not allow talk and the pointless tyranny of social contacts to deprive you of such a rare treasure as that of speaking heart to heart with your God and maker.” Are social contacts a bad thing? What is he saying here?
Jul 17, 8:09 PM
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Carol (Guest): If we are idle in our talk with others, ut takes us away from Him0 PM
Patti (Guest): I think he’s referring to the way we can let others eat up our time. Social media is notorious for this. (Love that pointless tyranny phrase.)
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Carol (Guest): Its so apporopriate
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Patti (Guest): Social contacts are not bad in themselves. But we can’t allow them a higher priority than God. :12 PM
Bettychao (Guest): Carol what is that mean if we are idle in our talk with others ut take us away from him what is that mean can you tell me carol8:13 PM
Carol (Guest): I mean that if we gossip, or say things that hurt others, or talk about evil things we should not, then we are too far from Him:14 PM
Bettychao (Guest): God tell us love eachother and pray for eachother and guide them to know Jesus love to eachother and pray with eachother to God
Jul 17, 8:14 PM
Ruth (Guest): But in some social contacts we can help one another to trust in God’s love and mercy.
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VisitationSister (Guest): God is first -love Him and of course then others
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VisitationSister (Guest): We connect with the Lord to help us connect with others8:16 PM
Ruth (Guest): He makes that abundantly clear in today’s readings. Bishop Barron has an excellent sermon on these readings on YouTube. 17 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Consider the story of the prophet Elijah (I Kings 19:9-13), where he escapes into the wilderness, is led to Mount Horeb, and he discovers that The Lord was not in the wind, earthquake or fire, but in t
the still small voice. Why is this great and majestic God who created the vast cosmos, with powerful supernovas and blackholes, why is he so subtle in how he communicates to us? l 17, 8:18 PM
Bettychao (Guest): I love bible sermon no matter is Catholic or Protestant
Jul 17, 8:18 PM
Ruth (Guest): I like the way he points out little things, like the repetition of Martha’s -x suggesting familiarity and tenderness.
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Patti (Guest): You are all too young to remember the old “party line” phone, I think. Sister told us in cathechism class to always remember that we are on the same party line as Jesus.
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Ruth (Guest): Martha’s name
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VisitationSister (Guest): When I was a child we had a party line
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Patti (Guest): Scripture says “no one can see God and live.” The creator of all kindly turns the power down for us. We are still changed by being with him.
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Ruth (Guest): Patti, I do remember party lines. I don‘t worry about Him listening in, I include him in the conversation even if only silently.
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Bettychao (Guest): When Jesus come to Mary and Martha story when Jesus sit down mary is wash Jesus feet Jesus tell her truth about God but Jesus want Martha hear the sermon Martha say I am besy I don’t have time
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Bettychao (Guest): Jesus say come hear the truth Martha but Mary hear the truth but Martha is doing her business work
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VisitationSister (Guest): I think God is subtle because He wants us to be very attentive to Him 8:26 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): Some people have specail gifts that God gives them to help them understand what He wants
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Carol (Guest): Yes, and we each have a room in iur hearts where only He can go
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Patti (Guest): Good idea. We have to pay close attention to soft voices. I love a gentle God. My childhood was riddled with a just and terrible God. Hard to recover from that. 9 PM
VisitationSister (Guest): May His gentle voice guide us all this week!
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Carol (Guest): Patty, when we find out Who He really is, everything changes
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VisitationSister (Guest): Have a blessed one!
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Patti (Guest): Indeed it was.