How can we become more attuned to Christ’s omnipresence, especially since he is “waiting for us everywhere”?If the Eucharist can give us eternal life, why then are there people who still fall away from the Lord?St. Francis wrote: “what would Our Lord do with his eternal life if he did not give a share of it to poor and weak little souls?” Attempt to answer this question. What would God “do” without having created us? What were things like for God before creating?Looking back, it easy for us to see St. Franc
Jul 1, 9:43 AM
Visitation Sr (Guest): Looking back, it easy for us to see St. Francis and St. Jane as always associated with the Visitation, but what do you think it was like for them in this process of praying and discerning to get it started? Do you think they had any idea of the impact (such as us meeting on Sundays to discuss their influence)?
How can we approach things more from a disposition of docility to God and surrender in prayer and discernment?
Jul 1, 9:44 AM
Visitation Sr (Guest): Sunday chat Jul 3 730pm est
Jul 1, 9:44 AM
Visitation Sr (Guest): newsletter for chat http://www.icontact-archive.com/archive?c=1029793&f=1988&s=2046&m=638800&t=44f0d18c19339967b1be43b205c1596fa07d3b2574e5f4560987969cb886fdda
VisitationSr (Guest): Q1 How can we become more attuned to Christ’s omnipresence, especially since he is “waiting for us everywhere”?
Jul 3, 7:30 PM
Carol (Guest): We must think of Him often and direct ourselves to Him
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VisitationSr (Guest): The more we pray in our silent moments the more aware we can become of His Presence :31 PM
Carol (Guest): It helps us to pray without ceasing 32 PM
Carol (Guest): Temptation can’t find us if we are doing what we’re supposed to 4 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): certainly He waits for us in the Blessed Sacrament, but in our hearts too 5 PM
Carol (Guest): Often when I am out working I have a few minutes between stops. I like to go to churches and sit outside even if the doors are locked 3, 7:36 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): q 2 If the Eucharist can give us eternal life, why then are there people who still fall away from the Lord? 36 PM
Carol (Guest): Many think that they are good people so they won’t be condemned 37 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Believing in the Eucharist and Real presence I am told is not the case for many Catholics. That is so tragic 38 PM
Carol (Guest): Why did we stop teaching it?
Jul 3, 7:38 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Did we? , 7:38 PM
Rosemary (Guest): I recently read that % is getting really low
Jul 3, 7:40 PM
Carol (Guest): I dont remember the last time there was a sermon at Mass about it
Jul 3, 7:40 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): That is why we have a 3 year Eucharistic revival coming
Jul 3, 7:40 PM
Rosemary (Guest): Yes, I know
Jul 3, 7:40 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Oh I did not knw that as esp during our Sacred heart Novena the priests often preach on the Eucharist
Rosemary
ul 3, 7:41 PM
Carol (Guest): We have a revival coming?? What fun!
Jul 3, 7:41 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Yes!
Jul 3, 7:41 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): https://www.eucharisticrevival.org/
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Carol (Guest): Thank you for the link. I must explore
Jul 3, 7:43 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): there will be a eucharistic congress too
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VisitationSr (Guest): so maybe more people will come to deep faith in the Eucharist :44 PM
Carol (Guest): I hope so
Jul 3, 7:44 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): q 3 St. Francis wrote: “what would Our Lord do with his eternal life if he did not give a share of it to poor and weak little souls?” Attempt to answer this question.
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Rosemary (Guest): Our parish had 40 hours devotion 2 weeks ago. Reminded me of when I was very young.
Jul 3, 7:45 PM
Carol (Guest): O I have no idea. And my imagination is pretty good
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Carol (Guest): Do you know Sister?
Jul 3, 7:48 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): He of course would keep loving His Father
Jul 3, 7:48 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): But I can’t imagine Him not sharing it once people were created 8 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): He of course would keep loving His Father
Jul 3, 7:48 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): But I can’t imagine Him not sharing it once people were created
Jul 3, 7:49 PM
Carol (Guest): But that love is so great it begs to be shared, and so creation?
Jul 3, 7:49 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): From eternal ages prior to our creation the love of Father Son and Holy Spirit was active
Jul 3, 7:49 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): But yes love wants to be s\hared and create I suppose
Rosemary
Carol 2 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): It is hard to grasp the idea of eternity
Carol (Guest): Its hard to imagine simply being 7:53 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): You mean the Godhead’s being?
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VisitationSr (Guest): You mean the Godhead’s being?
Jul 3, 7:54 PM
Carol (Guest): Not so much their being, because they are, but what that must be like
Jul 3, 7:54 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): These q’s follow a similar line: . What would God “do” without having created us? What were things like for God before creating
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VisitationSr (Guest): These q’s follow a similar line: . What would God “do” without having created us? What were things like for God before creating
Jul 3, 7:56 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): These are great mysteries and in heaven we may understand better
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Carol (Guest): Who can know the mind of God, but maybe its that first bloom of Young love that never fades
Jul 3, 7:57 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): beautiful thought
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VisitationSr (Guest): intense, self-giving9 PM
Carol (Guest): A moment in time for us that does not last because we are frail and prone to sin, but perfect in Them.
Jul 3, 7:59 PM
Carol (Guest): Did you ever see the move (ir read the book ) called The Shack?
Jul 3, 8:00 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Yes years ago
Jul 3, 8:01 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): what is the connection- I am not seeing it yet
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Carol (Guest): I love to watch the parts when the Trinity is interacting with each other
Jul 3, 8:02 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): ah ok did not focus on that
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VisitationSr (Guest): do you think it represents to any degree the reality:02 PM
Rosemary (Guest): I wonder if this is difficult for us because we think in before and after – there is no such thing for God
Jul 3, 8:02 PM
Simone (Guest): Hi everyone..
Jul 3, 8:03 PM
Simone (Guest): Jumping right in.
Jul 3, 8:03 PM
Carol (Guest): Hi Simone!
Jul 3, 8:03 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Hi Simone!
Jul 3, 8:03 PM
Simone (Guest): Yes Rosemary, I agree.. God is outside of time.. therefore it is very hard to get answers to ” Before or after”- Questions
Simone (Guest): Hi Carol, Hi Sister, Hi Rosemary!
Jul 3, 8:03 PM
Carol (Guest): I dont know that we could ever describe the full reality
Jul 3, 8:04 PM
Simone (Guest): I am actually having a dinner guest here. so.. I might be quite distracted here.. – but my husband and our guest- are working on something – and I thought I take the time to quickly jump on the call
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Rosemary (Guest): Glad you did Simone
Jul 3, 8:05 PM
Simone (Guest): thanks
Jul 3, 8:05 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Me too 5 PM
Carol (Guest): I was wondering where you were
Jul 3, 8:05 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Looking back, it easy for us to see St. Francis and St. Jane as always associated with the Visitation, but what do you think it was like for them in this process of praying and discerning to get it started? Do you think they had any idea of the impact (such as us meeting on Sundays to discuss their influence)?
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Simone (Guest): it was a spontaneous dinner invitation .. 07 PM
Carol (Guest): I think St Francis and St Jane would be thrilled to see how much Visitation has accomplished
Jul 3, 8:07 PM
Simone (Guest): They would also be THRILLED if the Canadians would know more about it
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Simone (Guest): which question are we doing now?
Jul 3, 8:08 PM
Simone (Guest): I only can go a little bit in the chat..
Jul 3, 8:08 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): next to last one
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Simone (Guest): oh.. LOVE that question.. things look so easy with hindsight.. or so normal. but there was a day – when everything was just a prayer – a whispered prayer even.. and now it is an order. God has His ways to make His plans come through 8:10 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): the inspiriation St Francis had was near his home looking up at the Alps and a cross is planted there now
Jul 3, 8:11 PM
Rosemary (Guest): I think when you want to share the graces you’ve been given – you want to put it out without knowing how far it will go
Jul 3, 8:11 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): He took years to work it out and I guess when he met St jane, after having had a vision of her earlier, things began to move but in a natural way as he was her director
Jul 3, 8:11 PM
Simone (Guest): oh.. I would love to hear about that encounter. In which book can I read about this? His biography I guess?
Jul 3, 8:12 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): yes
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Simone (Guest): oh.. I know about the story with St. Jane.. but not the one where he looked at the Alps.
Jul 3, 8:13 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): I have a picture somewhere of many of us Visitandines including me standing around that cross in 2009
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Carol (Guest): Can we see it?
Jul 3, 8:13 PM
Simone (Guest): Is it in Annecy? or is it on the mountain?
Jul 3, 8:13 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): near Annecy at the place he lived
Jul 3, 8:13 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): If I find it I will post it here on this website
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VisitationSr (Guest): it is on the computer downstairs I think
Jul 3, 8:14 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): I will call it cross of inspiration and Visitandines
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Rosemary (Guest): Thank you 15 PM
Simone (Guest): I get kicked out of the chat.. hmmm. strange
Jul 3, 8:15 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): I guess St jane and St Francis do know we meet here
Jul 3, 8:15 PM
Simone (Guest): here we go
Jul 3, 8:15 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Jane
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Simone (Guest): I read that yesterday was the day of the Visitation? Is that true?
Jul 3, 8:16 PM
Simone (Guest): I thought it was on the 31st of May?
Jul 3, 8:16 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): former day of Visiattion before Vatican 11
Jul 3, 8:17 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): July 2 was the former date
Jul 3, 8:17 PM
Simone (Guest): oooooh.. now I get it. Thanks for clarifying. I was so confused
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VisitationSr (Guest): last q How can we approach things more from a disposition of docility to God and surrender in prayer and discernment? 9 PM
Carol (Guest): I think we must have the desire and present it to Him and then He does the rest 20 PM
Simone (Guest): I think it all has to start in prayer.. and as Carol said.. with the desire – We simply cannot will a holy life 0 PM
Simone (Guest): we can desire it – but we cannot make it happen with sheer will power I think 1 PM
Simone (Guest): but we can cooperate with God’s graces of course – and step into the abandonment of our own will
Jul 3, 8:21 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): but great desire, saints all had that
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Simone (Guest): yes.. but even this desire is a grace from above
Jul 3, 8:21 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): true
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Carol (Guest): Yes, the desire is inspired by Grace. He is calling us by name and we respond 23 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): docility is not always easy 8:23 PM
Carol (Guest): So true!
Jul 3, 8:23 PM
Simone (Guest): in order to be docile though – we have to hear His voice really clear
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VisitationSr (Guest): He may want us to become sanctified by suffering and we can resist the suffering 25 PM
Simone (Guest): yup – just doing some reading on that. If anyone knows a good book on redemptive suffering – I would love to hear your suggestions. I am working on a short seminar on that
Jul 3, 8:25 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): not realizing thaT is our path to sanctity
Jul 3, 8:25 PM
Carol (Guest): We resist it naturally anyway. But there is also the remnant of thinking that suffering is a punishment
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Simone (Guest): yes – to both of your comments – 3, 8:26 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): do you mean a book bearing that title or a life of someone who lived redemtive suffering, Simone?
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Simone (Guest): a book on the topic would be great. But also recommendations on Saints are very welcome Sister
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VisitationSr (Guest): I can look in our library for the topic, lots of saints probably would fit the bill
Jul 3, 8:29 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Right now can’t think of anyone specifically except our own St Margaret Mary
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VisitationSr (Guest): I can look in our library for the topic, lots of saints probably would fit the bill
Jul 3, 8:29 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Right now can’t think of anyone specifically except our own St Margaret Mary
Jul 3, 8:29 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): anyone else?\
Jul 3, 8:29 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): have thought on this
Jul 3, 8:29 PM
Carol (Guest): I can’t think of anything
Carol (Guest): I can’t think of anything
Jul 3, 8:30 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): So we are at the end of our time. Please have agood holiday and stay safe! God bless!
Jul 3, 8:30 PM
Simone (Guest): St. Jane had the martyrdom of love I geuss
Jul 3, 8:30 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): yes
Jul 3, 8:30 PM
Simone (Guest): Not really sure what that meant though.
Jul 3, 8:30 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): her heart torn
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Carol (Guest): Thank you Sr Susan
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Blessings to all!
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Simone (Guest): for what reason though? It was not the grief over her husband. Was it St. Francis’ death?
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Carol (Guest): Happy 4th!
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Rosemary (Guest): Thank you
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Simone (Guest): oh.. Ok.. we are done.. Happy 4th of July everyone!
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): The separation fro St Francis earlier in heart 1616
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): I will look for reference fore you
Jul 3, 8:31 PM
Simone (Guest): thank you Sister