Related to the opening paragraph in this letter, discuss this quote from Mother Teresa: “God doesn’t require us to succeed, he only requires that you try.”What exactly is humility?St. Paul tells us that one of the main “perks” of celibacy (and thereby religious life) is a more dedicated ability to focus on prayer and growing in holiness: “the unmarried woman or girl is anxious about the affairs of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit; but the married woman is anxious about worldly affairs” (1 Corinth
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Visitation Sr (Guest): (1 Corinthians 7:34). But in this letter St. Francis refers to the prioress’s office as a “burden.” Why is that?Why do we say that God’s strength is made manifest in infirmity? Think of 2 Corinthians 12:9, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”St. Francis says, “Our Lord does not want us to ask for bread to last us a year or a month or a week, but only a day at a time, our daily bread.” Does this mean we do not need to have plans for how we manage our pantry and food
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supplies? Or is there something deeper to it (even if still literal)?Similarly, St. Francis says, “Try to do well today without thinking of the next day; then the next day, try to do the same; do not try to envisage what you are going to do throughout your time in office, but let the time pass, forgetting the anxiety.” Does this mean we should not make plans and just get rid of our calendars?In this letter, we learn that Mere Geneviève has just been made prioress of a convent. This post has many responsibil
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responsibilities. St. Francis is no doubt trying to calm the fears of this new superior over this assignment. How have you responded to new assignments, or new callings in life, such as becoming a new mother or father, or being given leadership over others in the workplace? How did you feel when problems seemed overwhelming? What did you do?
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Visitation Sr (Guest): first q Related to the opening paragraph in this letter, discuss this quote from Mother Teresa: “God doesn’t require us to succeed, he only requires that you try.”What exactly is humility
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Carol (Guest): How is it up in the mountains?
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Carol (Guest): Humility is knowing that we are doing things through Him and not on our own
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Mother Theresa’s quote helps to keep us in that stance of humility from the start and evidences a goal that is in itself an example of humility
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Visitation Sr (Guest): by not shooting for success but effort
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Hi Ruth!
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Dawn (Guest): Yes, to never give up37 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): and it is almost startling to hear from Mother Thersa that God Himself does not require us to suceed!
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Dawn (Guest): that is put so clear and beautiful Sr Susan. truth is beautiful
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Visitation Sr (Guest): we don’t usually think like that
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Carol (Guest): No. We usually think of success in worldy terms. Not always bad, but not necessarily what God had in mind:41 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): I guess it can help those who feel that they fail frequently – it is not important if they put their best efforts in:41 PM
Ruth (Guest): What is success? In the situation St. F. addresses, it is leading the souls who are in the charge of the new proprioress toward holiness. 7:42 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): which is awesome and very understandable why the prioress would be nervous and need St Francis’ insights43 PM
Ruth (Guest): I like Carol’s first comment, recognizing that it is God working in and through us; that we can accomplish nothing on our own.
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Carol (Guest): I would certainly be nervous being in charge of souls!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Ultimately God has the souls in His Hand but we guide them to that Hand
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Dawn (Guest): Yes. a bit like being in charge of your first newborn
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Yes and parents are also in charge of their children’s souls I believe45 PM
Carol (Guest): A mind boggling responsibility 5 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): q But in this letter St. Francis refers to the prioress’s office as a “burden.” Why is that?
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Dawn (Guest): yes they are, the Father has authority first over household wife and children. oh! , 7:47 PM
Carol (Guest): I imagine it is a burden because the requests and demands for your time and wisdom never end , 7:48 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): I think of it more as a cross but it comes to the same thing I guesser 7:49 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): q Why do we say that God’s strength is made manifest in infirmity? Think of 2 Corinthians 12:9, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. 9 PM
Dawn (Guest): any place of responsibility can be a burden , a trial, a cross
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Ruth (Guest): So much in the Imitation of Christ is about humility, often as thinking ourselves the worst of the worst, thatI started thinking a lot about this in eighth grade when I received that book from a former math teacher. And at the same time was learning about confidence and it’s importance to achieve anything. I concluded that humility was being face to face with the TRUTH, seeing ourselves as God sees us.
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Visitation Sr (Guest): We need to ask for His way of seeing things 31, 7:50 PM
Carol (Guest): Because it makes it clear it was God not us 51 PM
Carol (Guest): It is a Co tradition though to say we must have confidence in ourselves, and at the same time no confidence
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Jesus often uses very weak people to do His work to show it is Him, not the person
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Visitation Sr (Guest): what is CO mean
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Carol (Guest): Oh dear, i think I meant to type contradiction
Visitation Sr (Guest): we need confidence in Him
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Carol (Guest): Ours is a tradition of contradiction l 31, 7:54 PM
Dawn (Guest): yes carol 31, 7:54 PM
Carol (Guest): Like todays Gospel, more is definitely less 5 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): good example
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Dawn (Guest): Jesus …I did not come to bring peace, but a sword
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Visitation Sr (Guest): so strength is made manifest in infirmity is also a contradiction 56 PM
Carol (Guest): But my yoke is easy and my burden light
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Ruth (Guest): My how I hope this proves true in my life. Since my injuries and chemo it seems I bungle just about everything, no matter how I try, how careful I am. If he can be glorified through my just keeping on keeping on, that would put meaning and increased joy into every effort.
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Carol (Guest): As we follow to,the Cross
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Visitation Sr (Guest): that’s the way to look at it Ruth, 7:58 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): q St. Francis says, “Our Lord does not want us to ask for bread to last us a year or a month or a week, but only a day at a time, our daily bread.” Does this mean we do not need to have plans for how we manage our pantry and food
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supplies? Or is there something deeper to it (even if still literal
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Carol (Guest): We do,have to mind our pantries and work for our food. But there is also,spiritual food given us as a gift
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Salesian spirituality always looks only to the next step
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Visitation Sr (Guest): one step at a time and that leads to the next and that’s how we follow God’s will
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Visitation Sr (Guest): ties in with the Gospel- those pantries!!
(Guest): and if we have plans we need to yield to the providential circumstances that occur as we try to live the plans out, as things may change
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Carol (Guest): Yes, today’s farmer saw only the physical crop and thought himself wealthy
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Visitation Sr (Guest): but if a food shortage is coming I think we do need to stock up a bit
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Carol (Guest): Yes, you are right Sister
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Dawn (Guest): some important spiritual direction !
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Visitation Sr (Guest): I understand alot of USA farmland is being bought up by the rich and the foreign
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Ruth (Guest): “Give us this day our daily bread” Bishop Baron says refers to — or is better translated as “Super sufficient bread” — the Eucharist, the grace we need to live and carry on the work with which he charges us.
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Visitation Sr (Guest): beautiful! did you watch his installation?
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Carol (Guest): We miss him already down here
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Oh
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Dawn (Guest): there is land being bought up, us farmers talking on YT
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Visitation Sr (Guest): YT??
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Carol (Guest): Bishop Barron was our Archbishop here
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Dawn (Guest): youtube
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Thanks Dawn!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): What county? LA? 07 PM
Dawn (Guest): from many areas in US, also other countries as well
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Carol (Guest): Thats the Archdioces. We’re the Santa Barbara pastoral region
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Visitation Sr (Guest): , St. Francis says, “Try to do well today without thinking of the next day; then the next day, try to do the same; do not try to envisage what you are going to do throughout your time in office, but let the time pass, forgetting the anxiety.” Does this mean we should not make plans and just get rid of our calendars, 8:09 PM
Dawn (Guest): its fun sometimes overlapping conversations..
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Visitation Sr (Guest): yes gets confusing
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Visitation Sr (Guest): but fun!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): but fun!
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Dawn (Guest):
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Carol (Guest): Definitely have to pay attention
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Visitation Sr (Guest): what I like about this form of chat is all get to say or write something sometimes in talking a dominant person, well dominates!
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Ruth (Guest): Carol I think he was your Auxiliary Bishop; now he is fully a Bishop in Minnasota. 1, 8:11 PM
Dawn (Guest): its self correcting chat
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Visitation Sr (Guest): he is what they call the Ordinary
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Carol (Guest): Yep Ruth
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Visitation Sr (Guest): In this letter, we learn that Mere Geneviève has just been made prioress of a convent. This post has many responsibil
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responsibilities. St. Francis is no doubt trying to calm the fears of this new superior over this assignment. How have you responded to new assignments, or new callings in life, such as becoming a new mother or father, or being given leadership over others in the workplace? How did you feel when problems seemed overwhelming? What did you do?
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Ruth (Guest): Job was to support the Bishops efforts or th Archbishop’s?
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Dawn (Guest): in those new situations I would go forward even tho I felt afraid , going foward to completion 1, 8:14 PM
Carol (Guest): I think we all just learn as we go, new parents don’t know how to care for infants but they learn the way from their parents. Its the same in the church 8:15 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): It is especially hard if you have opposition or someone else wanted the job Takes alot of grace 16 PM
Dawn (Guest): it can be daunting to face a new responsibility. if on one is there. imagine St Francis consoling wisdom! :17 PM
Carol (Guest): The responsibility is such that no one who wants power shhouldnnever be anywhere near the office 31, 8:17 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): that’s wisdom speaking Carol, in you ul 31, 8:18 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): and probably experience l 31, 8:18 PM
Carol (Guest): I meant should ever be near 0 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): I have had alot of difficult assignments both before and after I entered religious life
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Visitation Sr (Guest): I have had alot of difficult assignments both before and after I entered religious life
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Visitation Sr (Guest): it is amazing what God can do in us- to help us do what is needed
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Dawn (Guest): Sr were assignments other sisters, or spiritual assignments
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Visitation Sr (Guest): here both I’d say but more managerial than spiritual tho I try to live spirtually
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Dawn (Guest): yes, it is all together!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): even teaching which I did heer was initially a challenge for me
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Carol (Guest): Its hard when so few are left
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Visitation Sr (Guest): but I gre thru His help
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Here we are at August tomorrow- lots of saints this month and especially Blessed Mother
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Visitation Sr (Guest): We need to stay close to them more than ever
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Carol (Guest): And Maximilian Kolbe
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Dawn (Guest): those challenging moments, as you would say…surrender everything to God and he will do everything for you
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Carol (Guest): Yes, and ask for their intercession
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Visitation Sr (Guest): yes St Kolbe ! ytes
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Visitation Sr (Guest): St Alphonsus tomorrow- we have Redemptorists serve us at the Monastery
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Dawn (Guest): wonderful!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): St peter Eymard Tues- very Eucharistic saint
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Ruth (Guest): When I started working in Troy, NY, the Owner of that new practice, without even discussing it with me, assumed that I would take over the leadership because I had been medical director in three other Long Island clinics — partly simultaneously —and had been offered an additional directorship that I turned down. I knew though, that by time my e executive functioning was in the pits and that I could no longer multitask and was even slower than I had been which is why I asked for a scribe as part of the dea , 8:28 PM
Visitation Sr (Guest): I guess we get tired after awhile but those were big responsibilities Ruth , 8:28 PM
Dawn (Guest): very big :29 PM
Carol (Guest): What happened next?
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Dawn (Guest): there are so many Saints feast days in August!
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Dawn (Guest): did we lose Ruth?
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Visitation Sr (Guest): I think so.
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Carol (Guest): I love her stories
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Visitation Sr (Guest): May you all have a peaceful safe and blessed week!
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Visitation Sr (Guest): Good night!
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