What is so special about the human ability for reason? One mental capacity that sets humans apart from animals is the ability to be self- aware. What exactly does this mean? Why should knowledge cause us to be more modest and humble? And why can it so easily lead to pride? How are faith and reason not in opposition? How might reason and love be related? How important is it to know the relationship between faith and reason in our world today? Consider Pope St. John Paul II’ s encyclical, Fides et Ratio of 1998, in
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Carol (Guest): Yes, I seem to be collecting them. I must need a lot of help!
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Lisa C (Guest): JP II wrote an encyclical on Faith and Reason
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Lisa C (Guest): We were told the ability to reason is part of being made in the image of God
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Lisa C (Guest): Only God, humans, and angels can reason\
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4:33 PMCarol (Guest): Lisa, I know you are right. I’ ve seen too much research though showing gorillas do have self awareness and are aware of their own mortality. We just didn’ t know until we figured out they could learn ASLOct 9, 4:33 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I do not think they can reason3 PM
Carol (Guest): Lisa, I know you are right. I’ ve seen too much research though showing gorillas do have self awareness and are aware of their own mortality. We just didn’ t know until we figured out they could learn ASL
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Lisa C (Guest): I do not think they can reason
Carol (Guest): Lisa, I know you are right. I’ve seen too much research though showing gorillas do have self awareness and are aware of their own mortality. We just didn’t know until we figured out they could learn ASL
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Lisa C (Guest): I do not think they can reason
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Simone (Guest): I think they can communicate and definitely have a level of self awareness.. but reasoning – is also putting your existence in the context of God’s realm. And that is definetely not doable for animals.
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Carol (Guest): I don’t know. They have so many of the markers for it
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Simone (Guest): And they do not connect reason with beauty – for example -like it said in the readings
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Lisa C (Guest): Reason alone does not make us human, because babies cannot reason, and children have to reach the age of reason, and people in vegetative states cannot reason. However, it is just given to humans and angels.
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Carol (Guest): I don’t know–they paint, creating their own art.
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Simone (Guest): I also think so. It is part of the Human soul – an animal soul cannot reason in order to “become” – only in reacting to inner or outer impulses
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Lisa C (Guest): Reason is the ability to use logic. Animals do not use logic.
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Lisa C (Guest): Reason is the ability to use logic. Animals do not use logic.
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Simone (Guest): well.. Lisa – now I am loosing you a little bit here.. cause animal can definitely loose logic for problem solving
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Carol (Guest): I’m not trying to be a pest. Ive just seen enough to make me wonder
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Lisa C (Guest): It is not logic, it is learning that they use.
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Simone (Guest): hmm.. disagree here.
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Lisa C (Guest): Logic is a very defined set of rules.
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Lisa C (Guest): Read philosophy books on logic.
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Simone (Guest): ok.. if you say so.. I don’t mind. The reason we are talking here – is not logic anyways. , 7:39 PM
Lisa C (Guest): It is definitely logic
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Lisa C (Guest): Logic is the tool of reasoning
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Simone (Guest): I think that St. Francis talks more about “existential reasoning” – not logical reasoning
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VisitationSr (Guest): q 2. One mental capacity that sets humans apart from animals is the ability to be self-aware. What exactly does this mean? 7:39 PM
Lisa C (Guest): It is definitely logic
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Lisa C (Guest): Logic is the tool of reasoning
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Simone (Guest): I think that St. Francis talks more about “existential reasoning” – not logical reasoning
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VisitationSr (Guest): q 2. One mental capacity that sets humans apart from animals is the ability to be self-aware. What exactly does this mean?
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Lisa C (Guest): It is what is used to find truth based upon known premises that are true
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Ruth (Guest): Sometimes I wonder whether chimps should not be batised
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Carol (Guest): That you have a sense if self and self eill
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Ruth (Guest): Baptised!
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Carol (Guest): Hi Ruth!
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Simone (Guest): Ruth – why would you think that?
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Lisa C (Guest): Chimps can’t tell right from wrong
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Carol (Guest): Er, self wil
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Lisa C (Guest): Their brains do not have executive functioning
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Carol (Guest): They have been observed doing many things we thought only humans do. Not trying to say you’re wrong, but saying there’s maybe more here
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VisitationSr (Guest): Self awareness is a delicate thing as we cannot judge another’s self awareness unlessbrain scans etc can tell us something
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Carol (Guest): I haven’t . And yes, Sr Susan, this is an unknowable
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Ruth (Guest): Animals solve unfamiliarproblems faster than I can when I am tired!
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Lisa C (Guest): If chimps could tell right from wrong they would need salvation and God never said there was an animal messiah
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VisitationSr (Guest): machines can too but they have no soul
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Elena (Guest): Hello, all!
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Simone (Guest): Redemption is applied to the whole creation
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Bettychao (Guest): Dear sr susan
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Simone (Guest): Betty! I literally just thought, that I have not seen you no the chat for a looooooong time
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Ruth (Guest): A smartani is a typo and accidental touch of return button.
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VisitationSr (Guest): Hi Betty How’s mom?
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Lisa C (Guest): The purpose of logic and philosophy is to find truth. If you are Catholic you know truth is what God says and knows. A machine using logic does not seem truth from God. Humans do.
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Bettychao (Guest): Hi how are you? This Bettychao I am Bettychao not mom it is myself
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Lisa C (Guest): Seek not seem
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Elena (Guest): Jumping in here… I’ve been talking about the issue of “animal souls” with my students lately. Animals act according to instinct and training. They have some capacity for learning, but no “reason” in the sense of self-awareness, free will, or moral/ethical decision making. Some can certainly function at a higher level than others, but they do not have a soul.
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Carol (Guest): Hi Betty!
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VisitationSr (Guest): Before I forget I will not be here next week Sr Jennifer makes her first profession next Sunday at 3PM Mass and then we have guests and a meal so then we will have evening prayer late so I won;t be here I do not think
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Elena (Guest): not a human soul
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Carol (Guest): Shall we soldier on next week?
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Lisa C (Guest): Our purpose is to seek God and be with Him. Our reason allows us to find Him. Machines and animals cannot do that.
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Elena (Guest): I was just going to write something like that, Lisa C. Yes.
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Lisa C (Guest): Our logic has a right end
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Simone (Guest): Yes, Lisa – that is the basic
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Lisa C (Guest): Truth=God
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Simone (Guest): God is Love
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Lisa C (Guest): Way truth life
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Carol (Guest): Are you visiting family Betty?
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VisitationSr (Guest): q 3. Why should knowledge cause us to be more modest and humble? And why can it so easily lead to pride?
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Bettychao (Guest): Yes and also I selling the house too
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Simone (Guest): WOW Betty – selling the house is a big step. And an exhausting one I guess
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Ruth (Guest): St. Thomas Aquinas says animals have animal souls.
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Simone (Guest): Yes Ruth, that’s what I was also taught.
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Carol (Guest): Because we can get caught in the trap of knowledge for knowledge’s sake
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Lisa C (Guest): “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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Bettychao (Guest): Everyday I join mass with I studying bible too
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Ruth (Guest): Hi Betty and Elena, Sorry I’m so slow.
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Lisa C (Guest): If you have ever see an animal die you see that something leaves them. Of course it is not a human soul, but it is an actual thing that leaves.
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Simone (Guest): Lisa.. can you explain – your quote of John 14:6
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VisitationSr (Guest): True knowledge should lead us to be in awe of God and not of ourselves as we are only learning what He created
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VisitationSr (Guest): True knowledge should lead us to be in awe of God and not of ourselves as we are only learning what He created
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Simone (Guest): Yes Sister. Yes. that’s what I meant – when I said.. that reason is linked with beauty and awe
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Lisa C (Guest): Simone…I quoted it to show that truth=God. Jesus said He is the truth
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Simone (Guest): Oh, I see
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Carol (Guest): We can only know a small fraction of what there is to know. And there is always someone who knows more than us in any given area
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Simone (Guest): true knowledge brings us on our knees – and births new levels of humility in us
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Ruth (Guest): Maybe, sister, that is why children are said to have true knowledge or wisdom. Even very simple things fill a child with awe!
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Simone (Guest): All the knowledge – that really has changed my life profoundly – God has revealed to me – not that my studies were not meaningful or good – but the things God revealed to my heart – have changed my life – my relationship with God and with others
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Simone (Guest): That is a very interesting thought Ruth.
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Lisa C (Guest): When I was little I used to wonder if God adds new things to the universe as we discover them or if they were always there. I mean something like when we discover atoms, does He then add sub atomic particles or were they there before.
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Carol (Guest): At the Gathering, after Adoration, one if the children broke away from her mother and ran up near the altar and threw herself prostrate
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Lisa C (Guest): I think now God made everything together because He knows everything and already had it all planned out instantaneously.
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Simone (Guest): That’s a cute thought Lisa. and as for your second comment.. I also think so that He is allknowing
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Simone (Guest): WOW Carol. .that must have been so very touching to watch that child.
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Ruth (Guest): Carol, you have been in my thoughts and prayers especially as you were making ypur profession.
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Carol (Guest): It was truly sweet
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Carol (Guest): Thank you Ruth, it was amazing!
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Bettychao (Guest): Why we have confession? What is confession?
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Ruth (Guest): I wonder what the child was thinking, experiencing, responding to.
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Lisa C (Guest): God
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Simone (Guest): Yes, Ruth.. it might have been of of these very very special moments- a person remembers forever – (speaking about the child)
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Carol (Guest): Very clearly God. The deacon had just reposed the Eucharist and she went running after Him
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan what is confession ? Why we have to confession with priest?
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Carol (Guest): Most were smiling, others were preparing for the next section of the praise and worship time
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan why Catholic honor and pray to Mary?
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Lisa C (Guest): Jesus gave the Apostles the ability to forgive sins in His name and Catholic
Priests are the successors of the Apostles in the Apostolic succession
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VisitationSr (Guest): Because Mary is Jesus’ Mother!
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Simone (Guest): Carol – that makes me tear up – when I read -that the child ran to the Blessed Sacrament –
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VisitationSr (Guest): The Mother of God
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Ruth (Guest): In my parish in Munich, a child was given an unconsecrated host, He said, “No! I want the Body of Christ! And grabbed a consecrated host and ate it. first Holy Communion at age 3!
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Simone (Guest): oh my – what a discernment.
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Simone (Guest): Who would give the child an unconsecrated host? The priest?
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Lisa C (Guest): Blessed Mother is conceived without sin so she could be the Mother of God, and Jesus gave her to us on the cross to be our Mother too.
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Carol (Guest): Made a beeline. Thinking back, I did go up with the adults but I only knelt as that is so hard to do. Dont know how id get up from prostrate. Ive been running after Him for a while
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Bettychao (Guest): Why God choose Mary instead choose another woman? Question for sr Susan from Bettychao
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VisitationSr (Guest): ary was prepared from all eternity for this but she had to say yes
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VisitationSr (Guest): Mary
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VisitationSr (Guest): 5. How might reason and love be related?
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Lisa C (Guest): Read the life of Blessed Mother revealed to Blessed Anne Emerich, Mary’s family was very Holy and was praying and making sacrifices for generations.
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Lisa C (Guest): I suspect that right reason leading to truth and God would lead you to love.
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Simone (Guest): from the readings…reason goes hand in hand with admiration and the heart: when one is surprised by the beauty of something, we desire to know it better; and when we love it, we enter into a more accurate and deeper knowledge.
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Ruth (Guest): Si one, I think it was his mother who had set aside that host for him when they had a home Mass. Young Rory was losteni g carefully.
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan why Moses is strict to the isareal ? Question for sr susan
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Simone (Guest): thanks Ruth – for giving the context
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Simone (Guest): Ruth.. did you get my email last week?
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Elena (Guest): Using our reason helps us to see the true, the good, the beautiful, and upon knowing these, we love their source, who is God alone.
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VisitationSr (Guest): Love is reasonable and to be reasonable is a way of loving :13 PM
VisitationSr (Guest): Love is reasonable and to be reasonable is a way of loving
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan I forgot the time because I am in Taiwan my country what time we finished?
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VisitationSr (Guest): in 17 minutes 9, 8:14 PM
Carol (Guest): Love id patient, live is kind…
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Ruth (Guest): Sorry, Simone, No. But I will do a search for it tonoght.
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VisitationSr (Guest): 6. How important is it to know the relationship between faith and reason in our world today? Consider Pope St. John Paul II’s encyclical, Fides et Ratio of 1998, in which he opens with, “Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth….”
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Simone (Guest): I find it said – that people always think that reason and faith oppose each other
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan do you talk to people in the phone? My mom say always call a sisters is bad idea because they will been bother by you phone too and sr Jennifer koo say the same thing
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Lisa C (Guest): Reason uses logic to find truth. It can be used to find any old truth, but with Faith we use it to find God.
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VisitationSr (Guest): We are limited in our phone contact because we keep silence during the day
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Simone (Guest): If you have access to FORMED – there is the program THE SEARCH – and one of the episodes – deals quite well with that. It shows how much the Catholic Church has been involved in scientific break throughs
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Ruth (Guest): Yes, sad and untrue.
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Carol (Guest): Modern culture tries to divorce faith Nd reason, but you can’t
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VisitationSr (Guest): and people dont know what faith is they think it is fantasy
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Lisa C (Guest): Faith is a gift from God
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Ruth (Guest): But reason alone cannot “find” Faith. Faith is a gift of God.
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Bettychao (Guest): Faith is come from Jesus teach the way leading us to the internal life
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Carol (Guest): Yes, reason must let God in
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Lisa C (Guest): Faith is used along with reason. It directs reason to find God
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Lisa C (Guest): Non Catholic philosophers do not use philosophy the way Catholics do
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VisitationSr (Guest): I think it is very important to know the relationship of faith and reason in the world today esp with all this talk of transhumanism
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VisitationSr (Guest): I think it is very important to know the relationship of faith and reason in the world today esp with all this talk of transhumanism
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Simone (Guest): transhumanism? What is that?
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Simone (Guest): do you mean -transgender?
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VisitationSr (Guest): no- transhumanism- I learned of it from Cardinal Sarah’s book and now I see it alot
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan Christian faith is not religion or philosophy Christian is truth and living faith they not a religion
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VisitationSr (Guest): Transhumanism” is a blanket term given to the school of thought that refuses to accept traditional human limitations such as death, disease and other biological frailties. Transhumans are typically interested in a variety of futurist topics, including space migration, mind uploading and cryonic suspension.
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Simone (Guest): can you describe in a nutshell?
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Lisa C (Guest): Which of his books, Mother
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Simone (Guest): oh.. I see what you mean
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VisitationSr (Guest): The last one except for the most recent- can’t think of the title yet I will look
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VisitationSr (Guest): The Day is Now Far Spent- that’s the book
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Carol (Guest): Somewhere I read that people are having surgeries to make themselves look like leopards, etc
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Simone (Guest): poor mislead souls
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Elena (Guest): Transhumanism is a very dangerous path of thinking.
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Carol (Guest): Lot of self hatred there 3 PM
Lisa C (Guest): God must have a plan for misguided people if Faith is a gift. He must have a way of saving them. If Faith is a gift that was not bestowed upon them, then He must have another way to give it to them later.
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Elena (Guest): My students and I have also been dealing with this topic of faith and reason. Faith enlivens reason which informs faith. I’m misquoting tho. Something like that. I’m tired lol
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Lisa C (Guest): God is not unfair.
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Simone (Guest): I handle it – like those who are trained to detect counterfeit money. They are never trained on all the different sorts of counterfeit money – but they are trained to study the REAL money so so well – that they can immediately detect the false one. I love to focus on the teachings of the church – and hope it makes me strong to resist everything that comes my ways.
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan is that sometime the visitors is that family from the sisters they can visit the sisters is the monastery open for them to visit them?
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Simone (Guest): No Lisa.. God is definitely not unfair. But we have a free will – and being mislead – which is an active strategy of the enemy – causes people to say NO to God and his gifts
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VisitationSr (Guest): Cardinal Sarah new book is Catechism for the Spiritual Life,” Cardinal Sarah’s new book
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Lisa C (Guest): Simone that is like taking credit for your Faith. You cannot take credit for obtaining a gift. 9, 8:26 PM
Lisa C (Guest): God gives Faith
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Carol (Guest): The gift is received, and also used
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Simone (Guest): Lisa – in a way it can be both .. I was graced with Faith -and I received it 7 PM
Simone (Guest): lol,, Carol -same midn
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Simone (Guest): midn
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Lisa C (Guest): Not everyone has the same level of Faith from God
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Simone (Guest): lol.. one more try — MIND
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Carol (Guest): Lol Simone
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Ruth (Guest): I’m cut off from posting again.
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VisitationSr (Guest): why Ruth
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Lisa C (Guest): Some get more than others…it is not something they did
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Ruth (Guest): Dunno. Back again
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Lisa C (Guest): To those who are given more, more is expected
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Bettychao (Guest): Sr Susan sorry I didn’t chat with you in long time because I in Taiwan sorry
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VisitationSr (Guest): I have to go now to give out meds See you in 2 weeks Sr Jennifer makes vows Sun so please pray for her We will keep you all in prayer at that Mass Lots of grace!
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VisitationSr (Guest): Thats ok Betty You are here now
Carol (Guest): It’s like a present you receive. Do you open the box and use it gratefully, or do you let it molder on a shelf somewhere