Reflections:What can we do to help children be “great”?What is the importance of our own spiritual growth in this pursuit?What does it mean to become little? And why is it great?If one is in a position of authority, such as that of a parent or work supervisor, how can we get cooperation and yet be “little” at the same time?St. Francis instructs us to be attached to the cross. Should we be pursuing our crosses or embracing them? And what is the distinction?While we should definitely pray for the grace to
endure and accept martyrdom, why might it be wrong to pray/hope for it happen to us?
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Jul 16, 7:21 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Hi Paula!
Jul 16, 7:21 PM
Paula (Guest): Hi Mother…where is everyone?
ul 16, 7:27 PMSrSusan (Guest): q 1 :What can we do to help children be “great”?
16, 7:29 PM
Steph (Guest): My dearest greetings all, the Lord has provided my area with much sunshine. It is 117 degrees today.
Jul 16, 7:29 PM
Paula (Guest): help them to keep their child like innocent and inquisitive fun qualities
Jul 16, 7:29 PM
Paula (Guest): wow
Jul 16, 7:29 PM
SrSusan (Guest): wow! 117
16, 7:29 PM
Steph (Guest): keep showing them gifts of holy spirit, kindness, joy, genteelness
Jul 16, 7:29 PM
SrSusan (Guest): teach them to pray
l 16, 7:30 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Hi Mother and all. Baby was born Thursday
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
Steph (Guest): yes, show them prayers, tell them to acknowledge their guardian angel, saying prayers before bedtime
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
Dawn (Guest): this, Sr Susan , to pray
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
Lisa C (Guest): She is on her way to VA I hope
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
Steph (Guest): congratulations Lisa! Babies are such a joy
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
SrSusan (Guest): How beautiful Lisa!
Jul 16, 7:30 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Her name is Catalina
Jul 16, 7:31 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hello Lisa!Steph
Jul 16, 7:31 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I did not know that Catherine of Aragon was also Catalina. It is Catherine in Spanish
ul 16, 7:32 PM
Paula (Guest): help children remain children in their characteristics
Jul 16, 7:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): Beautiful , Catalina <3
16, 7:33 PMLisa C (Guest): Bring Jesus into every aspect of their lives
ul 16, 7:33 PMCarol (Guest): Hi Everyone! Are you near Phoenix, Steph?
l 16, 7:33 PMSteph (Guest): I am in Las Vegas, Nevada Carol, so beautiful and HOT LOL
l 16, 7:34 PM
Steph (Guest): children are so observant and like parrots, they will pray if you pray
Jul 16, 7:34 PM
Carol (Guest): Teach children about the Mass early, in particular the Eucharist
Jul 16, 7:34 PM
Paula (Guest): Jesus said that unless you become as little children
Jul 16, 7:34 PM
Steph (Guest): Hi Ruth
ul 16, 7:34 PMCarol (Guest): Ok, Steph. The weather here is the same as yours
PMSrSusan (Guest): q What is the importance of our own spiritual growth in this pursuit?
l 16, 7:36 PMCarol (Guest): We must keep,growing ourselves if we are to be a guide for someone else
Jul 16, 7:36 PMRuth (Guest): Dawn are you safe? I heard about more fires in Calif, but am not clear where?
6, 7:37 PM
Steph (Guest): we are to be disciples and be like Jesus to all, teach and then we also grow
Jul 16, 7:37 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes safe up here. thank you for checking
Jul 16, 7:37 PM
Paula (Guest): the more we explain the faith and help others the more we grow in faith
Jul 16, 7:37 PM
Ruth (Guest): Oh, Hi Carol!
l 16, 7:38 PMDawn (Guest): Being little necessary for advancing or growing spiritually
l 16, 7:38 PMRuth (Guest): Model the kind of greatness we are talking about here!
Jul 16, 7:39 PMDawn (Guest): I am not the point.
Jul 16, 7:40 PMSrSusan (Guest): I think we grow when we teach others
ul 16, 7:40 PMRuth (Guest): Kids learn a lot by watching and imitating their parents & teachers and older siblings.
ul 16, 7:40 PMRuth (Guest): Kids learn a lot by watching and imitating their parents & teachers and older siblings.
7:41 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q What does it mean to become little?
Jul 16, 7:41 PM
Steph (Guest): It is nice to observe parents in church teaching the littles ones to genuflect and sign of cross
ul 16, 7:41 PMLisa C (Guest): meek, humble, non threatening
l 16, 7:42 PMPaula (Guest): having charity in humility
Jul 16, 7:43 PM
SrSusan (Guest): seeing oneself as the least of all
Jul 16, 7:43 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, Stef, it always gives me a good feeling when I see good parenting.
ul 16, 7:44 PMSrSusan (Guest): but not in a self demeaning way but a humble way
l 16, 7:44 PM
Lisa C (Guest): meek lambs follow the shepherd
16, 7:44 PMCarol (Guest): Thinking what we can do,for others
l 16, 7:45 PMSrSusan (Guest): putting one’s self will aside
l 16, 7:45 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Little lambs follow the other lambs that follow the Shepherd
6, 7:46 PMSrSusan (Guest): q And why is it great to be little/
ul 16, 7:46 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sr. Could you please clarify the difference between self-demeaning and humble?
Jul 16, 7:47 PM
SrSusan (Guest): one is truth- humility, the other is not really a truth but more likean emotional put down of oneself
Jul 16, 7:47 PM
Paula (Guest): unless you become as little children you shall not enter the Kingdom of God
ul 16, 7:47 PMSteph (Guest): no ego
16, 7:47 PM
Steph (Guest): no pride, children tend to be more open and carefree
Jul 16, 7:48 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Great to be little means in a way to be like St Therese, so little, but so saintly and now a doctor of the Church!
16, 7:49 PMSrSusan (Guest): or like baby Catalina, so little and yet in the eyes of God, so great, in purity, inncence
l 16, 7:49 PMLisa C (Guest): Jesus is meek and humble of heart
ul 16, 7:50 PMPaula (Guest): no worries and more trust in the Father
l 16, 7:50 PMDawn (Guest): St Therese is great example , Sr
l 16, 7:51 PMPaula (Guest): she did little acts with great love
l 16, 7:52 PMSrSusan (Guest): q If one is in a position of authority, such as that of a parent or work supervisor, how can we get cooperation and yet be “little” at the same time?
7:52 PMRuth (Guest): Thank you SisterBeing little in God’s presence is part of right worship. And like a child full of awe over almost everything and still TRUSTING the parents, we can feel secure in who God is: perfect LOVE
16, 7:53 PMPaula (Guest): lower your voice….I heard read somewhere…the more you raise your voice it eventually become a shouting match
ul 16, 7:53 PMSrSusan (Guest): great advice!
16, 7:54 PMLisa C (Guest): It was more fun for my daughter and for me to make things a game when possible. It was more fun to put her dolls out and make them play school when she had to study or learn.
ul 16, 7:55 PM
Lisa C (Guest): We would take turns being the teacher and making the dolls answer the questions.
Jul 16, 7:55 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Clever!
ul 16, 7:55 PM
Dawn (Guest): Fun!
Jul 16, 7:55 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Children want to play
ul 16, 7:55 PM
Lisa C (Guest): play with blocks and count them
Jul 16, 7:56 PM
Lisa C (Guest): add an subtract them
Jul 16, 7:56 PM
Lisa C (Guest): just play all the time
Jul 16, 7:56 PM
Paula (Guest): that helps at work too….make socializing/working luncheons
6, 7:56 PMSteph (Guest): adults want to still play at work too, and why supervising is not a fun job at times Lol
7:56 PM
Steph (Guest): I think love your neighbor, love your subordinates, treat them with respect and kindness
Jul 16, 7:56 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Adults need parties
16, 7:57 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Birthdays, holidays, etc. at work
Jul 16, 7:57 PM
Steph (Guest): keep your voice low, is great like Paula said, be sure they know the rules and regulations
Jul 16, 7:57 PM
Paula (Guest): i used to organize lots of social events….it works
l 16, 7:58 PM
Paula (Guest): order out for lunch….people stay in and work longer/more
Jul 16, 7:58 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Take them all bowling or something
Jul 16, 7:58 PMPaula (Guest): yep
16, 7:58 PM
Steph (Guest): yes, food is always good step
ul 16, 7:58 PMPaula (Guest): morale, welfare, recreation
l 16, 7:59 PMPaula (Guest): celebrate birthdays in the office once a month
Jul 16, 8:00 PMSrSusan (Guest): q St. Francis instructs us to be attached to the cross. Should we be pursuing our crosses or embracing them?
l 16, 8:00 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Just embrace them
Jul 16, 8:00 PM
Paula (Guest): embracing them
l 16, 8:00 PM
Dawn (Guest): copy part, May we be forever attached to the cross and may a hundred thousand arrows pierce us, provided that our heart has first been pierced by the burning shaft of the love of God. May this arrow make us die that holy death which is worth more than a thousand lives.
Jul 16, 8:00 PM
Ruth (Guest): Embracing the crosses we are given.
, 8:00 PM
Ruth (Guest): Embracing the crosses we are given.
Jul 16, 8:01 PM
Steph (Guest): embracing, offer up sufferings, suffer with patience
Jul 16, 8:02 PM
Paula (Guest): and not running after the ones that we think are our crosses
Jul 16, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): And what is the distinction between embracing them and pursuing them
Jul 16, 8:02 PM
Dawn (Guest): seems there are many crosses, and more coming
, 8:02 PM
Ruth (Guest): GOOD quotation, Dawn.
Jul 16, 8:02 PM
Paula (Guest): one is our cross and one is not
Jul 16, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): do you mean in the world Dawn
l 16, 8:03 PMLisa C (Guest): embracing them is knowing God sent them for us to learn and sacrifice, pursing them would be seeking them out and that would not be His will
Jul 16, 8:03 PM
Paula (Guest): definitely
Jul 16, 8:03 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes Sr, the world. but crosses can come interiorly you are suggesting, are those different? a good thing to ponder!
ul 16, 8:04 PMSrSusan (Guest): they do influence each other too
Jul 16, 8:04 PM
SrSusan (Guest): some people take on great penances but if it is not an inspiration from God it might not be helpful to our soul
Jul 16, 8:04 PM
Paula (Guest): i think crosses have both interior and exterior dimensions
ul 16, 8:05 PMSrSusan (Guest): that’s a good point Paula d you have an ex
l 16, 8:07 PMSrSusan (Guest): Sometimes we run from our crosses too
, 8:07 PM
Paula (Guest): well if you are sick/broke a bone that is an exterior dimension but you can’t go to church due to it and you love how uplifted you get going to church that is interior
Jul 16, 8:07 PM
SrSusan (Guest): ah interconnected
Jul 16, 8:07 PMPaula (Guest): you are suffer interiorly too
8:08 PMPaula (Guest): or if you love to walk outside…you suffer want of walking
16, 8:09 PM
Paula (Guest): Jesus sufferings were not just exterior…His heart was broken by insults…interior suffering
Jul 16, 8:09 PM
SrSusan (Guest): While we should definitely pray for the grace to
endure and accept martyrdom, why might it be wrong to pray/hope for it happen to us?
6, 8:10 PMRuth (Guest): Uniting, through prayer the suffering that is given to us with the suffering Christ freely accepted on the cross out of love for us can make our suffering not only more bearable but also more efficacious.
Jul 16, 8:10 PMPaula (Guest): it may not be God’s will us
ul 16, 8:11 PM
Dawn (Guest): thank you Ruth
Jul 16, 8:11 PMPaula (Guest): we may not be made to endure it
ul 16, 8:11 PM
SrSusan (Guest): all is grace
Jul 16, 8:11 PM
Steph (Guest): true Paula
16, 8:12 PM
Ruth (Guest): We may be presuming strengths we do not have if we SEEK martyrdom.
Jul 16, 8:12 PM
Paula (Guest): God only knows what we can withstand for Him
Jul 16, 8:12 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Martyrdom is always with us somewhere in the worldV
ul 16, 8:12 PMSrSusan (Guest): But will it come to us? We cannot know
Jul 16, 8:13 PM
Paula (Guest): you can still be a martyr but not a red martyr
Jul 16, 8:13 PM
Ruth (Guest): True, Sister. And there have already been more martyrs in THIS century than in the early fays of the church.
ul 16, 8:13 PMSrSusan (Guest): white martyr?
ul 16, 8:13 PMPaula (Guest): yes…is that possible
16, 8:13 PM
Paula (Guest): yes…is that possible
Jul 16, 8:14 PM
Paula (Guest): a martyr in spirit
Jul 16, 8:14 PM
Ruth (Guest): White martyrs, too. But I do mean it in the sense of blood martyrs.
Jul 16, 8:14 PM
SrSusan (Guest): we are all martyrs actually if we take the word to mean witnesses
16, 8:14 PMLisa C (Guest): Archbishop Vigano thinks the true Church is about to separate from the named Church….that is a kind of martyrdom for the Church
l 16, 8:15 PM
Dawn (Guest): thank you all
Jul 16, 8:15 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Yes he is one to follow, a priest I know knows him and worked for him
Jul 16, 8:15 PM
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16, 8:15 PMLisa C (Guest): He is a wonderful Bishop who is not afraid to speak the truth
l 16, 8:16 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Had not seen the above article
16, 8:16 PM
Lisa C (Guest): It is tough to read
Jul 16, 8:16 PM
Steph (Guest): me either, thanks Lisa
Jul 16, 8:17 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Time to pray for the Church
l 16, 8:17 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Time to resist the attack on the Church
Jul 16, 8:17 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes
Jul 16, 8:17 PMPaula (Guest): Always….for oneness
ul 16, 8:18 PM
Ruth (Guest): That article, the title even, is scary.
Jul 16, 8:18 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes
Jul 16, 8:18 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The Church is in great danger
Jul 16, 8:18 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Fatima 3rd Secret is now
16, 8:19 PM
Dawn (Guest): I was just looking up Fatima today, diabolical disorientation
Jul 16, 8:19 PM
SrSusan (Guest): how would you suggest we do that under these circumstances
Jul 16, 8:19 PM
Dawn (Guest): May the Precious Blood seal us
Jul 16, 8:19 PM
Steph (Guest): I try to pray the St Michael prayer after every mass
Jul 16, 8:20 PMSrSusan (Guest): we do too
Jul 16, 8:20 PMPaula (Guest): Whatever the case God is still in charge AND it is His church
l 16, 8:20 PM
Steph (Guest): promote first thur first saturdays. first fridays, and try and go every month
Jul 16, 8:20 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Mother you can raise strong Catholic girls in the model of Sr. Margaret Mary
Jul 16, 8:20 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Emphasize religions more than anything else
Jul 16, 8:20 PM
Lisa C (Guest): religion
6, 8:21 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Stay true to dogma
Jul 16, 8:21 PM
Lisa C (Guest): doctrine
ul 16, 8:21 PMLisa C (Guest): the Bible
ul 16, 8:21 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Speak out against heresy
Jul 16, 8:21 PM
Paula (Guest): it’s not just that….people need to speak up and articulate their faith for conversion of souls
6, 8:21 PM
Lisa C (Guest): call out bad Bishops and Cardinals
Jul 16, 8:22 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Do not stay silent
Jul 16, 8:22 PM
Dawn (Guest): Im trying to pray more than one, maybe 2 three rosaries. deeper spiritual reading. and….speaking up when i see an offense, example, the pride thing. one priest put 2 pages into bulletin honoring this. I spoke out.
Jul 16, 8:22 PM
Paula (Guest): to convert their neighbors
l 16, 8:22 PMLisa C (Guest): Yes, the Rosary….Blessed Mother said to pray the Rosary
l 16, 8:22 PMLisa C (Guest): So many souls are being misled by bad bishops and cardinals now
16, 8:23 PMLisa C (Guest): Follow Vigano, Burke, Muller, etc.
ul 16, 8:23 PMRuth (Guest): We have to be countercultural ow. That was not always so.
ul 16, 8:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): Coalition cancelled priests
Jul 16, 8:23 PM
Ruth (Guest): Now.
Jul 16, 8:23 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Vote prolife
16, 8:24 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Call out “Catholic” politicians who promote sins
:24 PM
Lisa C (Guest): P R A Y
Jul 16, 8:24 PM
Ruth (Guest): What are you saying Dawn?
Jul 16, 8:25 PMDawn (Guest): there is a Coalition of Cancelled Priests
l 16, 8:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): Persecuted priests
Jul 16, 8:25 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Yes, Bergolio is getting rid of good Priests for speaking the truth
, 8:26 PMPaula (Guest): Maybe his days are numbered and God will take care of Him
16, 8:27 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Andres Serrano
Jul 16, 8:27 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes,Cannon Law has not be applied evenhandedly.
Jul 16, 8:27 PM
Dawn (Guest): Pope Benedict wrote about these times.
8:28 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Mother, he is a horror, he did the same to Baby Jesus and Blessed Mother
Jul 16, 8:28 PM
Paula (Guest): I heard long ago that Pope Benedict was suppose to be the last valid Pope
Jul 16, 8:28 PM
Dawn (Guest): The Church is blessed to have strong faithful priests and laymen coming forwarded at this time.
Jul 16, 8:28 PM
SrSusan (Guest): how can he be honored??
8:29 PM
Lisa C (Guest): He was invited for a personal audience and he gave him a thumbs up
Jul 16, 8:29 PM
Lisa C (Guest): it is on video
Jul 16, 8:29 PM
SrSusan (Guest): well we must stay faithful to all we know and learned in the “better past”
l 16, 8:29 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I will place all the articles on my Facebook page, Mother
Jul 16, 8:29 PM
SrSusan (Guest): thank you!!
ul 16, 8:30 PMPaula (Guest): and pray and stick to our faith
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Paula (Guest): and pray and stick to our faith
Jul 16, 8:30 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Truth does not change
Jul 16, 8:30 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes. Last night I discovered Classic Catholic Audiobooks on youtube. some wonderful tapes,
Jul 16, 8:30 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes all good ways