Vanity is an easy vice to warn against, but what about ambition? That’s commonly considered positive in our day and age. Why does St. Francis see it as negative?What makes vanity a defect of courage?What is vanity, precisely? Is it just about a concern for our looks?St. Francis encourages frequent communion. Since we receive all of Jesus (Body, Blood, Soul, Divinity), why is receiving communion more than once necessary?Back in the 1500s, when books were only beginning to be widely disseminated by the advent of the printing press, St. Francis warns in this letter of “bad books.” In our age, we have a proliferation of bad books, and more so we are inundated with endless words from the internet and social media. If St. Francis saw bad books as a danger back then, how so more do we need to be on guard today. What constitutes a bad book, image, or written piece in our world, and how do we guard against it?
ec 3, 7:39 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Makes one illogical.
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Simone (Guest): interesting Rhodylyn.. very interesting definition. Thank you
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Simone (Guest): you mean “glory of man”?
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Simone (Guest): or do you mean that we become “careless” when we are ambitious?
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): That’s what St Frances said about Ambition
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Paula (Guest): Ambition goes after something as if it belonged to you already
Dec 3, 7:39 PM
Simone (Guest): LOLLL.. I should have read it more careful 
Dec 3, 7:40 PM
Simone (Guest): In all fairness I thought I might not make it tonight
Dec 3, 7:40 PM
Simone (Guest): Paula.. that is a great insight too.
Dec 3, 7:40 PM
Simone (Guest): Paula.. would you be able to give an example
Dec 3, 7:40 PM
Simone (Guest): ?
Dec 3, 7:41 PM
Paula (Guest): It seeks to attain something in the worst way, quickly, without putting
Dec 3, 7:41 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): When one tries to pursue a high position in a company.
Dec 3, 7:41 PM
Simone (Guest): so…. can someone write a “holy” example.. when we pursue a goal
Dec 3, 7:41 PM
Paula (Guest): forth effort or work
Dec 3, 7:42 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): It’s good but the way to do it is the question.
Dec 3, 7:43 PM
Paula (Guest): like people who say yes…i want to be CEO of a major company by age 28 or 30
Dec 3, 7:43 PM
Simone (Guest): I wonder if the difference would be – the way it is “received”. If we receive something. .and out of that we put all our effort it.. because we received the call from GOD.. Like St. Francis of Assisi— rebuild my church….
Dec 3, 7:43 PM
Paula (Guest): and they just got out of a Masters or PHd program with not work experience
Dec 3, 7:43 PM
Simone (Guest): that would be a “holy ambition”
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Dec 3, 7:44 PM
Simone (Guest): but if St. Francis would think.. “Let me see.. what can I do to be remembered for centuries? oh I know.. I rebuild this church”… then it would be false ambition… is that right? What do you all think?
Dec 3, 7:45 PM
Simone (Guest): PhD’s are usually only good for those who want to teach at the university
Dec 3, 7:45 PM
Paula (Guest): or going to extremes in the rebuilding
Dec 3, 7:45 PM
Simone (Guest): well.. you cannot generalize.. it is hard to put the full worth on an education
Dec 3, 7:45 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Sorry to be late
Dec 3, 7:46 PM
Simone (Guest): yes… extremes are also often a fruit of “human ambition”.
Dec 3, 7:46 PM
Simone (Guest): Oh.. Sister Susan.. welcome!
Dec 3, 7:46 PM
Paula (Guest): better late thannever
Dec 3, 7:46 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): If the “holy ambition ” is guided by discernment then it is following God’s will if discerned well.
Dec 3, 7:46 PM
Simone (Guest): well said
Dec 3, 7:47 PM
Simone (Guest): Sister.. I post the second question now.. and do you want to take over?
Dec 3, 7:47 PM
Simone (Guest): Q2) What makes vanity a defect of courage?
Dec 3, 7:47 PM
SrSusan (Guest): not yet just geting ready
ec 3, 7:48 PM
Simone (Guest): ok.. no stress Sister
Dec 3, 7:49 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): If one is not vain but courageous will not mind criticisms
Dec 3, 7:49 PM
SrSusan (Guest): courage to be who we are and be that well and not make ourselves out to be what we are not
Dec 3, 7:49 PM
Paula (Guest): well said
Dec 3, 7:50 PM
Simone (Guest): also.. we might not be courageous enough – to “face reality”.. that reality that mirrors our faults… so we escape into vanity
Simone (Guest): maybe we should look at this question in combination with Q3)
Dec 3, 7:51 PM
Simone (Guest): Q3) What is vanity, precisely? Is it just about a concern for our looks?
Dec 3, 7:51 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): It is also corned about how others perceive you
Dec 3, 7:51 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): concerned
ec 3, 7:51 PM
Simone (Guest): I agree
Dec 3, 7:52 PM
Simone (Guest): It is a “filter” that makes everything on you look better
Dec 3, 7:53 PM
Paula (Guest): According to St Francis it is not putting for the effort to be courageous
ec 3, 7:53 PMRhodylyn (Guest): Yes, it is like choosing the easy way.
Dec 3, 7:54 PMPaula (Guest): yes, or if you know you can’t muster the courage still acting as if you can
Dec 3, 7:55 PM
Paula (Guest): it’s almost like a funny cartoon
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Simone (Guest): so.. I throw in a personal question.. what do you do, if you discovered vanity in an area of your life? what would be the steps getting out of it for you?
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Simone (Guest): the question if for everyone
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Paula (Guest): where one character tries to beat up on another character but never does
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Vanity and ambition truly can make one lose his way to holiness.
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Simone (Guest): that sounds scary Rhodylyn
Dec 3, 7:56 PM
Simone (Guest): but I agree
ec 3, 7:57 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): That is why frequent confession and communion is advised.
Dec 3, 7:57 PM
Paula (Guest): do not put on false misleading airs
Dec 3, 7:57 PM
SrSusan (Guest): since we are in the Eucharistic revival time designated by the Bishops, this next question is pertinent:St. Francis encourages frequent communion. Since we receive all of Jesus (Body, Blood, Soul, Divinity), why is receiving communion more than once necessary?
Dec 3, 7:58 PM
Paula (Guest): Because as one Priest I know put it …it is having Jesus for breakfast…
Dec 3, 7:58 PM
Simone (Guest): but at St. Francis’ time.. didn’t they have not a lot of access to communion?
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
Paula (Guest): and we get Jesus’s courage
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
Simone (Guest): I think I remember that even St. Jane de Chantal did not have a chance to get communion regularly
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
SrSusan (Guest): that is so Simone
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
Paula (Guest): we get Jesus Wheaties…so to speak
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
Ruth same person (Guest): We. Ed to. E constantly and continuouslyunitred to Jesus. Holy. O union is
ec 3, 7:59 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): To strengthen our faith.
Dec 3, 7:59 PM
SrSusan (Guest): to be with our BelovedRhodylyn (Guest): Give the Holy Spirit room in our soul.
Dec 3, 8:00 PM
Paula (Guest): Jesus has all the courage I need
Dec 3, 8:00 PM
Simone (Guest): to offer myself up and go with HIS love and grace through the day then
ec 3, 8:01 PMSrSusan (Guest): Awful today found 2 consecrated hosts under the pews in our Chapel
ec 3, 8:01 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): In communion we become one with the Triune God.
Dec 3, 8:01 PM
Paula (Guest): I get all that I need from Jesus….even in Spiritual Communion
Dec 3, 8:01 PM
Simone (Guest): oh no. I am so sorry to read this
Dec 3, 8:01 PMRuth same person (Guest): we need to be constantly and continuously, united to Jesus and holy communion is his gift to us, knowing of what we are made to enable that union.
Dec 3, 8:01 PMRhodylyn (Guest): That hurts.
ec 3, 8:02 PM
Simone (Guest): Do you have a big church Sister Susan? Lots of people?
Dec 3, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I think Jansenism was the heresy that did not encourage Communion but Pope Pius X was the one who allowed children at 7 to receive
Dec 3, 8:02 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): I mean about the Consecrated Host desecrated.
Dec 3, 8:02 PM
Paula (Guest): I wish I was there to Consume the Host….even ones that fall to the ground
Dec 3, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Today we did big event we can hold 33
Dec 3, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): 300
Dec 3, 8:03 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Parishioners?
Dec 3, 8:03 PM
Simone (Guest): it is hard to oversee with that many people. Still – may peace rule your heart.
Dec 3, 8:03 PM
SrSusan (Guest): neighbors
Dec 3, 8:04 PM
SrSusan (Guest): they should go to their parish church but we are closer to the facility for the elderly- shrter walk and some of our school families come here
Dec 3, 8:04 PMRhodylyn (Guest): They are very fortunate to have been able to celebrate with you.
Dec 3, 8:04 PM
Paula (Guest): they need to here the Bishop Sheen story of a Little Girl in China
Dec 3, 8:05 PM
Simone (Guest): was that the one with the pig in the church?
Dec 3, 8:05 PM
Ruth same person (Guest): Oh, how awful! sister what did you do? Perhaps one more reason to offer Communion only on the tongue — it even that would not stop a person bent upon desecrating the host.
Dec 3, 8:05 PM
Paula (Guest): hear
Dec 3, 8:05 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I heard that story- yes you are right
Dec 3, 8:05 PM
SrSusan (Guest): The priest consumed in this case here
ec 3, 8:06 PMPaula (Guest): When I was a Eucharistic Minister I made sure that they said Amen & Comsumed
Dec 3, 8:06 PMPaula (Guest): consumed
Dec 3, 8:06 PMRhodylyn (Guest): At our church, I once followed a lady who just clasped the host in her hands. I begged her to consume the host.
Dec 3, 8:07 PMSrSusan (Guest): yes a Ive seen ministers or M priests run after persons on occasion
ec 3, 8:08 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Back in the 1500s, when books were only beginning to be widely disseminated by the advent of the printing press, St. Francis warns in this letter of “bad books.” In our age, we have a proliferation of bad books, and more so we are inundated with endless words from the internet and social media. If St. Francis saw bad books as a danger back then, how so more do we need to be on guard today. What constitutes a bad book, image, or written piece in our world, and how do we guard against it?
Dec 3, 8:08 PM
Paula (Guest): At our Cathedral, ushers are stationed and check people as they receive communion.
Dec 3, 8:08 PM
SrSusan (Guest): good practice!
Dec 3, 8:08 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): I consider New Age books bad books.
Dec 3, 8:09 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Takes away our belief in the works of the Holy Spirit.
Dec 3, 8:09 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Cant think of a title there
ec 3, 8:09 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Cant think of a title there
Dec 3, 8:10 PM
Paula (Guest): I consider bad books as those that sow doubts and challenge what a person know to be right and the truth
Dec 3, 8:10 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I have to make a phone call Be back
Dec 3, 8:10 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Those that promote healing through transcendental meditations.
Dec 3, 8:11 PM
Paula (Guest): yoga
Dec 3, 8:11 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Jesus is our Great Healer.
Dec 3, 8:12 PM
Simone (Guest): I find the books that “sound” Catholic – but actually do not promote a holy life – the most dangerous
Dec 3, 8:13 PM
Paula (Guest): yes…even what seems to be good Christian shows
Dec 3, 8:14 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Yes those shows that justifies pursuing weather.
Dec 3, 8:14 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Earth
Dec 3, 8:14 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Wealth
Dec 3, 8:14 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Sorry, doing that word prediction.
Dec 3, 8:15 PM
Paula (Guest): yes, even some of these Christian Revival shows on TV….
Dec 3, 8:15 PM
SrSusan (Guest): If you stick to St Francis de Sales, St Jane and St Margaret Mary one can’t go wrong! They all wrote
c 3, 8:16 PM
Simone (Guest): I just wanted to say .. I stick to writings of Saints mostly.. or books from good apostolates
Dec 3, 8:16 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): The writings of the Saints
Dec 3, 8:16 PM
Ruth same person (Guest): Simone, that is why until fairly recently while o stat and imprimatur were requested by serious Catholic authors, and we were expected to avoid religious books without that “ certification.”
Dec 3, 8:16 PM
Paula (Guest): yep….we need a Salesian Network TV Satation
Dec 3, 8:16 PM
Simone (Guest): It is a language of love from Mother Church
Dec 3, 8:17 PMSimone (Guest): oh PAULA.. what an idea! Now I could become wrongly ambitious with that idea
Dec 3, 8:18 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Great idea!!!
Dec 3, 8:18 PM
Paula (Guest): Mother Angelica did it! We need Devotion to the Sacred Heart!
ec 3, 8:18 PM
Simone (Guest): We need holiness promoted
Dec 3, 8:18 PM
Paula (Guest): And the Eucharist!
ec 3, 8:18 PM
Ruth same person (Guest): Seri changed N Obstate now 7 times!
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
SrSusan (Guest): we are having a special prayer service for Sacred Heart Dec 27
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
Paula (Guest): A friend of mine showed me a picture of Our Lady appearing in the Eucharist
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Is it online?
ec 3, 8:19 PM
Paula (Guest): in a Monstrance
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
SrSusan (Guest): What online?
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Prayer service may be taped if someone offers
Dec 3, 8:19 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): Sr your prayer service.
ec 3, 8:21 PM
Rhodylyn (Guest): It would be nice if it will be recorded.
Dec 3, 8:21 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes someone may but Srs dont have the ability Someone is asking another to volunteer to do that
ec 3, 8:21 PMRuth same person (Guest): The monstrance at the prayer chapel for the Rachel’s Vinyard retreat is a carving of art holding the host in her loving arms.
ec 3, 8:22 PM
Paula (Guest): I have a picture of it in an email
Dec 3, 8:22 PM
Simone (Guest): oh Ruth.. that sounds beautiful..
Dec 3, 8:22 PM
Ruth same person (Guest): Of MARY!
Dec 3, 8:22 PMSimone (Guest): yes.. I was assuming Mary
Dec 3, 8:24 PMRuth same person (Guest): I don’t know why it is so hard to NOT get what I write or dictate clearly changed to something else!
Dec 3, 8:24 PM
Simone (Guest): Ladies.. it was a joy and privilege to listen to your thoughts tonight.. I am joining my family decorating the Christmas tree now.. Have a truly blessed first week of Advent.
Dec 3, 8:24 PM
SrSusan (Guest): God bless and have a blessed week!
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