Even though death can come at any moment for us, why do we often live as if it is a far, distant reality?Why is it important to prepare for our deaths?We are often told that at death we will truly contextualize our lives, wishing we spent more time here and less time there. Why is it so difficult for us to do this in our day-to-day lives? How do we become so fixated on worry and accomplishing things?How can we better cherish and embrace the important people/things in life?Does it seem unfair that in
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Jul 21, 7:26 AM
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l 21, 7:32 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Even though death can come at any moment for us, why do we often live as if it is a far, distant reality?
Jul 21, 7:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): Unable to comprehend our death I think
Jul 21, 7:32 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Maybe denial, but maybe because we have real Faith that Jesus will take us when we die and keep us with Him forever
Lisa C (Guest): ….then we do not have to be as afraid
Jul 21, 7:34 PM
Dawn (Guest): So faith . I imagine death to being born in a way…
ul 21, 7:35 PM
SrSusan (Guest): This topic hits me today because Fri a priest I know died suddenly, Fr Peter Gillen
Jul 21, 7:35 PM
SrSusan (Guest): He was in charge of the Sacred Heart Apostolate in Brooklyn and the Guard of Honor
ul 21, 7:36 PMLisa C (Guest): Oh my
Jul 21, 7:36 PM
Dawn (Guest): Sudden death of another is shocking…
Jul 21, 7:36 PM
Ruth (Guest): I am not so sure that if we are living this life as best we can in accord with Gospel values there is a big difference between, e.g. preparing for heaven and preparing g an ordinary meal.
ul 21, 7:37 PMLisa C (Guest): Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord,
and let perpetual light shine upon him.
May the souls of all the faithful departed,
through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
ul 21, 7:37 PM
Dawn (Guest): Amen
Jul 21, 7:37 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Amen
ul 21, 7:38 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I am not sure we can comprehend it
Jul 21, 7:38 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q Why is it important to prepare for our deaths?l 21, 7:39 PM
Jul 21, 7:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): And for one another.
Jul 21, 7:40 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Purgatory is awful according to Saints who saw it, but hell is worse and is eternal
Jul 21, 7:41 PM
Lisa C (Guest): imagine no relief from hell and only seeing the devil there and other souls being tortured
Jul 21, 7:41 PM
Ruth (Guest): This reading relates to today’s Mass readings, too.
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SrSusan (Guest): q We are often told that at death we will truly contextualize our lives, wishing we spent more time here and less time there. Why is it so difficult for us to do this in our day-to-day lives?
Jul 21, 7:47 PM
Dawn (Guest): So much weakness! Afraid. And other things I won’t say here…
Jul 21, 7:47 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The world is full of things to distract us
Jul 21, 7:48 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): We become very distracted.
ul 21, 7:48 PM
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Jul 21, 7:48 PM
Dawn (Guest): We must pray for deeper conversions and second conversions
Jul 21, 7:49 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): There’s a lot of amusement offered in todays world. Social media for one.
Jul 21, 7:49 PM
Lisa C (Guest): God made the world where we could see Him all the time and then after the fall we became self centered rather than God centered.
ul 21, 7:49 PMLisa C (Guest): We have to keep remembering to be God centered
Jul 21, 7:49 PM
Ruth (Guest): Often, we do not spend enough time in quiet reflection.
Jul 21, 7:50 PM
Dawn (Guest): Turn off distractions, that is right more Time in reflection
Jul 21, 7:50 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): Today in one the readings, Jesus tells his disciples to find a deserted place to rest.
Jul 21, 7:50 PM
Dawn (Guest): Be God centered
l 21, 7:51 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): We all need to do that sometimes.
Jul 21, 7:51 PM
Ruth (Guest): My pastor took three days away this past week, leaving the rectory to a seminarian and the secretary. His preaching improved.
ul 21, 7:52 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): Time alone with God allows us to hear His voice.
Jul 21, 7:53 PM
Ruth (Guest): Amen, Rhodylyn!
ul 21, 7:54 PMSrSusan (Guest): q How do we become so fixated on worry and accomplishing things?How can we better cherish and embrace the important people/things in life?
ul 21, 7:56 PMRHODYLYN (Guest): We must remember that God gives us His peace. We must learn to put all our trust in Him.
ul 21, 7:57 PMRuth (Guest): By treasuring relationships more.
ul 21, 7:57 PMDawn (Guest): Is seeking his peace the most important thing?
ul 21, 7:58 PM
SrSusan (Guest): one of the most important- also His love
Jul 21, 7:58 PM
Ruth (Guest): Like the little fox trying to get the busy Little Prince to tame him.
Jul 21, 7:59 PMRHODYLYN (Guest): When we are at peace we know that everything s His will. In both good and the bad things that happen to us.
ul 21, 8:00 PM
Dawn (Guest): Like the paradoxes of spiritual life
Jul 21, 8:00 PM
SrSusan (Guest): a sense of responsibility often makes us put tasks first but some people know how to put other people first
Jul 21, 8:00 PM
Ruth (Guest): Dawn, I do not think so. Seeking HIM is more important. And serving God. In others.
Jul 21, 8:00 PM
Dawn (Guest): I like that story Ruth
Jul 21, 8:01 PMDawn (Guest): Seeking him and knowing his will seems very important
ul 21, 8:02 PM
Ruth (Guest): Often he will give us peace. But think how other Teresa of Calcutta struggled nearly all of her life, just to believe!
Jul 21, 8:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): also when we see Christ in others we will put them first as we are not likely to see Him in thingsul 21, 8:02 PMRuth (Guest): Mother not other.
Jul 21, 8:03 PMRuth (Guest): Saint
ul 21, 8:05 PMSrSusan (Guest): q Does it seem unfair that in
this short time on earth, we have to wade through the confusion and messiness of life to hopefully make the right eternal decision between heaven and hell?
Jul 21, 8:05 PMRHODYLYN (Guest): So we must remain Christ to see Him in others
Jul 21, 8:07 PMLisa C (Guest): What seems unfair is that not everyone has the same opportunity to know God. So we pray and sacrifice for others, but maybe not all wake up and see. So how can it be that God would let some go to hell if we pray for them and sacrifice for them?
ul 21, 8:07 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sr. Susan, I am not entirely clear about the putting others FIRST. At least not time wise, if we do not take care of ourselves, we may not have anything to give to others. Eg. We may become tired and irritable.
Jul 21, 8:08 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I meant vs tasks like work related things
Jul 21, 8:09 PMLisa C (Guest): I understand free will, but it seems like not everyone gets the same grace
Jul 21, 8:10 PMSrSusan (Guest): it is mysterious but I think God gives enough to each one to be saved
ul 21, 8:11 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Romans 14:1 It is written: “’As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
Jul 21, 8:11 PM
Ruth (Guest): Who was it? A starex? who always found God while washing pots and pans and scrubbing the floor of his hermitage?
Jul 21, 8:11 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Does this mean somehow God will get through to everyone
Jul 21, 8:12 PMDawn (Guest): I see what you mean Iisa….some people have difficult life circumstances, even horrible, how could they see God. I believe with guidance from Holy Spirit we will know when and how to speak up boldly
ul 21, 8:12 PM
Lisa C (Guest): If everyone acknowledges God won’t they be saved by Him?
Jul 21, 8:12 PM
Dawn (Guest): Or somebody
Jul 21, 8:14 PM
Ruth (Guest): From whom much is given, much will be expected. And vice versa, I suspect.
ul 21, 8:14 PMDawn (Guest): How does it work death bed conversions…
ul 21, 8:14 PMRHODYLYN (Guest): God’s Mercy is unfathomable.
ul 21, 8:15 PMLisa C (Guest): Brideshead Revisited ….deathbed conversion
ul 21, 8:15 PM
Ruth (Guest): I am nearly in tears remembering some of my patients from long ago . . .
Jul 21, 8:15 PM
Dawn (Guest): Author?
Jul 21, 8:15 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I think Evelyn Waugh
ul 21, 8:17 PMRuth (Guest): Some change at a much earlier point in their life history.
Jul 21, 8:20 PMLisa C (Guest): Best way to die……do the Sacred Heart First Friday Novena
l 21, 8:20 PMLisa C (Guest): One promise is that you will not die without receiving the sacrements
Jul 21, 8:23 PM
Lisa C (Guest): here is a question……Immaculate Heart reparation ….masses on Saturday….all the masses are for Sunday…..how do you do Saturday masses?
Jul 21, 8:23 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Besides the gregorian Masses is not there another help spritually as we die
21, 8:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): Divine Mercy Chaplet
Jul 21, 8:23 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I got my Father the Gregorian Masses
Jul 21, 8:24 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I have said the divine mercy chaplet every day since he died
Jul 21, 8:24 PM
SrSusan (Guest): apostolic something?
Jul 21, 8:24 PM
Ruth (Guest): Of course,Annointing of the sick. Extreme Unction.
Jul 21, 8:24 PM
Lisa C (Guest): yes apostolic blessing
ul 21, 8:24 PMRHODYLYN (Guest): At our parish we have Saturday mass in the morning
Jul 21, 8:24 PM
Lisa C (Guest): the apostolic blessing is asking for all of your sins to be forgiven
Jul 21, 8:25 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The Priest asks
Jul 21, 8:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): You are fortunate, Rhodylyn.isa C (Guest): I made sure he did that blessing for my Father
Jul 21, 8:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): The Apostolic pardon
Jul 21, 8:25 PM
Lisa C (Guest): yes
ul 21, 8:26 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): The Divine Mercy Sunday
Jul 21, 8:26 PM
Ruth (Guest): Even when all is forgiven, sometimes reparation still must be made.
l 21, 8:26 PM
Dawn (Guest): Ah yes!
Jul 21, 8:27 PM
Lisa C (Guest): oh yes Ruth, every sine has to have reparation
Jul 21, 8:27 PM
Lisa C (Guest): That is why there is purgatory
ul 21, 8:28 PM
RHODYLYN (Guest): Divine Mercy Sunday removes the punishment also for your sins that you confess.
Jul 21, 8:28 PM
Lisa C (Guest): we can also do reparation before we die
Jul 21, 8:28 PM
Lisa C (Guest): pennance
Jul 21, 8:28 PM
Dawn (Guest): As in offering up our suffering both physical and temporal
ul 21, 8:30 PM
Dawn (Guest): Sometimes I believe God allows me to live in purgatory here on earth. Like a purgation
Jul 21, 8:30 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hmmm; that could mean that it imposes an injustice against an innocent victim of someone else’s sin/crime.
Jul 21, 8:31 PM
Dawn (Guest): No I deserve it
Jul 21, 8:32 PM
SrSusan (Guest): It is the Cross of Christ we carry it with Him
Jul 21, 8:32 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Have a blessed week all I need to go now
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