Why is failing to address an issue able make a problem worse between people?Are relationships only true when they have no issues, or based on how they resolve issues?What is wrong about being forthright? What is good about it?Do you think that St. Francis is deflecting in this letter and not taking seriously enough Madame de Gouffier’s concerns?How can we continually reconcile our relationship with God?This letter speaks of a certain unnamed disagreement between the two persons, and an attempt on the bishop’s part to make amends. Does it seem that he is going overboard in expressing his feelings to this woman? How would a bishop of today write to a woman about an issue like this?Does this letter sound a little like St. Paul writing to various Christian communities who were guilty of sins, but whom Paul wanted to win again for Christ? Is this a “carrot and stick” approach?We all know about family members who have a squabble and cease to speak to one another for years on end. How does this letter help us repair relationships between family and friends, or prevent these breakups from getting worse?
ep 8, 4:10 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Does anyone want to speak to this weeks reading?
Sep 8, 4:11 PM
Donna (Guest): Hi Sister Susan, Hi everyone! I am sorry but cannot stay for Bible study unless my friend cancels with me.
Sep 8, 4:12 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Having a serious disagreement with some we love is a challenge
Sep 8, 4:12 PM
Donna (Guest): Can someone send a summary of the answers tonight or tomorrow on my email?
Sep 8, 4:13 PM
Donna (Guest): If so thank you and here is my email – donnalong657@yahoo.com
Sep 8, 4:13 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Ok – not sure if we have any participants here
Sep 8, 4:14 PM
Donna (Guest): I know I signed in early but have a blessed time and God bless all of you! St Francis de Sales please pray for us!
Sep 8, 4:15 PM
Carol (Guest): Hi Donna and MaryAnn, everyone should be here in about 15 minutes
Sep 8, 4:15 PM
Donna (Guest): Hi Carol! Hi Mary Ann!
Sep 8, 4:15 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): It is easier – i think – to bend if we are Christ centered. More ready to see other side
Sep 8, 4:16 PM
Donna (Guest): Can you draw from a personal experience?
Sep 8, 4:16 PM
Donna (Guest): I appreciate it!
Sep 8, 4:17 PM
Donna (Guest): For me, my husband, son and daughter in law I am most comfortable trying to fix a misunderstanding
Sep 8, 4:17 PM
Donna (Guest): A very good friend as well
Sep 8, 4:18 PM
Donna (Guest): Especially when there is a true misunderstanding
Sep 8, 4:18 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Yes – when feelings are hurt by a sister, we are more eager to make things better – than to be “right” and more willing to listen with love
Sep 8, 4:18 PM
Donna (Guest): Thanks I so appreciate your advice
Sep 8, 4:19 PM
Donna (Guest): Mary Ann and Carol!
ep 8, 4:25 PMSrSusan (Guest): q 1 Why is failing to address an issue able make a problem worse between people?
Sep 8, 4:26 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Because no one is listening!
Sep 8, 4:26 PM
Donna (Guest): Because of misunderstanding to begin with
ep 8, 4:26 PM
Carol (Guest): I think it is because the argument stays inside someone’s head and they believe they know what the other person is thinking
Sep 8, 4:26 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Lack of communication is a key factor in difficult relationships
Sep 8, 4:26 PM
Dawn (Guest): Communication and prayer are key on relationships otherwise the evil one can insert misunderstandings
ep 8, 4:27 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes Carol~
Sep 8, 4:27 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 4:27 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): When you hear the other person’s pain and anger , you want to help and support rather than be right
Sep 8, 4:27 PM
Dawn (Guest): that makes sense Sr Susan, that it is key factor
ep 8, 4:28 PMSrSusan (Guest): Trouble is often people dont have good skills to communicate in a way that others understand and are not offended by
ep 8, 4:28 PMDonna (Guest): True
Sep 8, 4:28 PM
Carol (Guest): Someone once told me if undid not state out loud every single thought inhave then they are free to just make stuff up. I asked if it had ever occurred to her to simply ask me what she wanted to know. She said no, I should know
Sep 8, 4:29 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Yes and that is so painful
ep 8, 4:29 PMCarol (Guest): I can be guilty of that Sr Susan
Sep 8, 4:30 PM
Donna (Guest): Trying to be balanced
Sep 8, 4:30 PM
Donna (Guest): Not enough information or too much information
Sep 8, 4:31 PM
Carol (Guest): And some people are more naturally reserved than others. I am a very private person. It takes me a while to get warmed up
Sep 8, 4:31 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Simone
Sep 8, 4:31 PM
Donna (Guest): Hi Simone!
Sep 8, 4:32 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Example: when my father was drivingep 8, 4:32 PM
Carol (Guest): Hi Simone!
Sep 8, 4:32 PM
Simone (Guest): if we don’t address an issue.. then one person is waiting for a change – and is getting impatience if nothing changes…. while the other person does not even know that there is an expectation on a change…. so there is a disharmony created often – that is felt by both parties.. but it is vague – and not in the open
Sep 8, 4:32 PM
Simone (Guest): Hi EVERYONE!
Sep 8, 4:32 PMMary Ann (Guest): I mean – dying. He told me and my brother simply: don’t fight and share the money
Sep 8, 4:33 PMSimone (Guest): I think you have a lot to say Carol… I am glad you are not holding back here
ep 8, 4:33 PMMary Ann (Guest): So i really took that to heart – and i deferred to my brothers wishes in all the arrangements- even though i would have done things differently
Sep 8, 4:34 PMDonna (Guest): God bless you Mary Ann you did the right thing!
ep 8, 4:34 PM
Simone (Guest): beautifully lived humility Mary Ann
Sep 8, 4:34 PM
Donna (Guest): You kept the peace of God between you
Sep 8, 4:35 PM
Carol (Guest): I can relate to that Mary Ann. My brother and had had much conflict when I was my Dad’s caregiver
Sep 8, 4:35 PM
Donna (Guest): and your brothers
ep 8, 4:35 PMMary Ann (Guest): Yes! Father’s dying wish.
ep 8, 4:36 PM
Donna (Guest): Knowing what I know now I would have completely walked away and let my brothers have everything.
Sep 8, 4:36 PM
Carol (Guest): A couple of years later, he called me out of the blue and said he’d be helping his wife care for her father. And then he said all I can saynis i’m sorry
ep 8, 4:36 PMSimone (Guest): How did you receive this Carol?
Sep 8, 4:37 PMSrSusan (Guest): q Are relationships only true when they have no issues, or based on how they resolve issues?
ep 8, 4:37 PM
Carol (Guest): I forgave him. We have not fought since–about sixteen years now
Sep 8, 4:37 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): He made it clear what the priority was – our love for one another – and my support to my brother helped him
Sep 8, 4:37 PM
Simone (Guest): wonderful Carol
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Carol (Guest): I think a relationship with no issues is not true, or at least shalloe
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Carol (Guest): I’d rather have my brother than be right
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Simone (Guest): that’s sacrificial love Carol
Sep 8, 4:38 PM
Simone (Guest): Hi Ruth!
Sep 8, 4:39 PM
Donna (Guest): Hi Ruth!
Sep 8, 4:39 PM
Dawn (Guest): if relationships have no issues it seems someone or both are shutting down. I have some relationships like this. dtr in law….do not rock the boat is my motto
Sep 8, 4:39 PM
Carol (Guest): Is it?
Sep 8, 4:39 PM
Carol (Guest): Hi Ruth!
ep 8, 4:40 PM
Simone (Guest): again.. it takes humility to allow yourself to see as jealours
Sep 8, 4:40 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Real relationships are bound to have conflicts at times but how we approach them is very important. Yet we all slip
ep 8, 4:41 PM
Simone (Guest): We have moved to question 2 I think Dawn
Sep 8, 4:41 PM
Carol (Guest): Many times our problems with others stem from something inside ourselves. And occasionally it is the other person
Sep 8, 4:41 PM
Dawn (Guest): you are correect Simone!
Sep 8, 4:41 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes that’s why I love weekly confession and daily mental prayer
Sep 8, 4:41 PM
SrSusan (Guest): sometimes with siblings we can have similar traits and that can annoy us because we dont actually like that trait in ourselves
Sep 8, 4:42 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 4:42 PM
Simone (Guest): yes that’s true..
Sep 8, 4:42 PM
Dawn (Guest): correct
Sep 8, 4:42 PM
Donna (Guest): So true!
Sep 8, 4:43 PM
Simone (Guest): the question that rises in me is… when does an issue become an issue?
Sep 8, 4:43 PM
Carol (Guest): Is that what Jesus meant when he said to remove the plank jn yiur own eye before you go after the mote in someone elses?
ep 8, 4:43 PMDonna (Guest): Yes!
ep 8, 4:43 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes!
Sep 8, 4:43 PM
Simone (Guest): I mean.. there are many things that annoy me about my daughter often.. BUT.. I love her so much, that I do not let it become an issue..
Sep 8, 4:43 PM
Simone (Guest): I think love is really open to “forbearing”
Sep 8, 4:43 PM
SrSusan (Guest): good distinction
ep 8, 4:44 PM
Simone (Guest): but hey.. how often do we really love? Being offended is easier than forbearing.at least for me
Sep 8, 4:44 PM
SrSusan (Guest): trying to change someone can move it toward an issue
Sep 8, 4:44 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
ep 8, 4:45 PMSimone (Guest): but trying to change someone without their desire to change… is definitely a sign of lacking love I think
Sep 8, 4:45 PMDonna (Guest): Yes
ep 8, 4:45 PM
Simone (Guest): because I want to mould the other to my liking.. so the other basically becomes reduced to an object that has to function, to my delight.
Sep 8, 4:45 PM
Carol (Guest): I would agree. I think there’s some pride hiding in there
ep 8, 4:45 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes sadly true
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
SrSusan (Guest): hello Reji
ep 8, 4:46 PM
Dawn (Guest): if the issue between 2 people is one is Christian and one is not, this can be an issue
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
Carol (Guest): Hi Reji
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q What is wrong about being forthright? What is good about it?
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
Reji (Guest): Hi
ep 8, 4:46 PM
Carol (Guest): Forthright or just plain blunt?
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
Simone (Guest): Yes Dawn, because two completely different worldviews clash then
Sep 8, 4:46 PM
Donna (Guest): It can come out harsh and unloving
Sep 8, 4:47 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Fear – sometimes we want to point people we love in a direction that we think is better because we fear that what they are doing is bad or dangerous
Sep 8, 4:47 PM
Dawn (Guest): I am forthright to a fault at times
Sep 8, 4:47 PM
Simone (Guest): I am Austrian. We invented forthright I think
Sep 8, 4:47 PM
Reji (Guest): It’s my first time in this room
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Carol (Guest): I thought the Polish did, lol
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Reji welcome
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Donna (Guest): You’re going to love it
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Simone (Guest): Wonderful Reji! So glad you found us.
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Forthright must be gentle and with true love fir the other persons feelings
ep 8, 4:48 PM
Reji (Guest): Thanks
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Simone (Guest): We are just chatting along to the questions Sister is posting. Feel free to join in
Sep 8, 4:48 PM
Donna (Guest): That’s when you know it’s from God
Sep 8, 4:48 PMDawn (Guest): like when Jesus tossed the merchants tables
Sep 8, 4:49 PM
Simone (Guest): isn’t forthright something negative? I am not sure if I understand the word in its nuance
Sep 8, 4:49 PM
Reji (Guest): I understand 👍
ep 8, 4:49 PM
Donna (Guest): Getting to the point?
Sep 8, 4:49 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I equate it with honest and speaking the truth but maybe that is not the definition
Sep 8, 4:49 PM
Carol (Guest): Forthright to me is unvarnished truth. But we can choose words carefully to avoid unnecessary offense
Sep 8, 4:49 PM
Donna (Guest): Not beating around the bush
ep 8, 4:50 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Well-righteous indignation has its place
Sep 8, 4:50 PM
Simone (Guest): thank you all
Sep 8, 4:50 PMDawn (Guest): i agree sr , going striaght to the point
Sep 8, 4:50 PMSimone (Guest): Truth and Grace should always come as twins I find
Sep 8, 4:51 PMDonna (Guest): It helps a lot a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down
ep 8, 4:51 PM
Simone (Guest): … isn’t that from Mary Poppins?
Sep 8, 4:51 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes!
Sep 8, 4:51 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q Do you think that St. Francis is deflecting in this letter and not taking seriously enough Madame de Gouffier’s concerns?
ep 8, 4:52 PM
Simone (Guest): I think – when it is noticeable for the other that hard truth is offered ONLY for the sake of the good of the other.. then it is really easier to take
Sep 8, 4:52 PM
Ruth (Guest): Truth with grace. Twins. I like that. But it is sometimes so hard.
Sep 8, 4:52 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): If you see someone hurting someone else – righteous indignation is appropriate
ep 8, 4:53 PM
SrSusan (Guest): The q refers to this passage in letter I think: You know very well the kind of country which produced me: can you expect delicate fruit from a mountain tree, and such a poor tree at that? Oh, so be it, then, think of me as you please in future, but I for my part will always be yours, I repeat, wholly yours; and if I can do nothing else for you, I shall not cease to prove this before God in the holy sacrifice I offer to his Goodness.
Sep 8, 4:53 PM
Simone (Guest): I would call that fraternal correction maybe
Sep 8, 4:54 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): I think he is trying to put things in perspective
Sep 8, 4:54 PM
Carol (Guest): I get the feeling he thinks she expects too much
Sep 8, 4:54 PM
Donna (Guest): He is really sorry for hurting her feelings
Sep 8, 4:54 PM
Donna (Guest): She needs St Jane to give her a hug
Sep 8, 4:54 PM
Simone (Guest): I also see it like Donna.. It feels he is humbly coming towards her
Sep 8, 4:55 PMDawn (Guest): I thought he is making his feelings clear, his thoughts good
Sep 8, 4:55 PM
Simone (Guest): I also think.. that he might question her sensitivity a tiny bit.
Sep 8, 4:55 PM
Donna (Guest): I hope she forgave him I would have
Sep 8, 4:55 PM
Carol (Guest): In humility he cannot be the perfect person she is expecting
Sep 8, 4:55 PM
Reji (Guest): I would agree with Donna
Sep 8, 4:56 PM
Dawn (Guest): having a Bishop offer Mass for you , nothing more loving
Sep 8, 4:56 PM
Simone (Guest): I think I would have answered immediately
Sep 8, 4:56 PMDonna (Guest): He has a heart of gold
Sep 8, 4:56 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Its an apology- forgive by blunt, il manner- it was notmy intention to hurt
Sep 8, 4:56 PM
Donna (Guest): He feels so badly for hurting her
Sep 8, 4:57 PMSimone (Guest): and he does not want this to be the reason for a lapsed friendship
Sep 8, 4:57 PM
Simone (Guest): good Relationships were so important to him it seems
Sep 8, 4:57 PM
Donna (Guest): He is the gentleman Saint right?
Sep 8, 4:57 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes
ep 8, 4:57 PMReji (Guest): Sfs has a great heart
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Dawn (Guest): he does state clearly ” the fact is you are in the wrong” but with charity
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Donna (Guest): I’d love for him to be my spiritual director/confessor!!!
ep 8, 4:58 PM
Donna (Guest): I would heal so quickly!
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Ruth (Guest): Sorry I was late and did not greet you. I was trying to read everything you wrote. And a friend of many years — with whom I have had a conflict invariably calls me just before the chat. She took it so hard that I asked her to NOT call after eight PM unless it in an emergency. That seems still have a negative impact on our relationship.
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Simone (Guest): well.. in a way he is – if you read his writings Donna.. specially the letters I find.
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): We get to heaven with the help of others. It was good she expressed her hurt – and he learned to be better Saint
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
Simone (Guest): Ruth.. that fits perfectly to our theme tonight
Sep 8, 4:58 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Donna take one of his books and when you have a question ask, pray and open the book, you may getan answer similar to your director’s
Sep 8, 4:59 PMDawn (Guest): I did not take it he feels sorry for hurting her. He is her Bishop and untimately cares about her soul
Sep 8, 4:59 PMDonna (Guest): Thank you!
ep 8, 4:59 PM
Simone (Guest): I do sense some hidden remorse – about having caused the pause in their relationship
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
Reji (Guest): IDL introduction to devout life is a good to read
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q How can we continually reconcile our relationship with God?
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
Simone (Guest): confession?
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
Reji (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:00 PM
Dawn (Guest): by confession and Eurcharist
Sep 8, 5:00 PMCarol (Guest): Through prayer, examinations of conscience, sacraments
Sep 8, 5:01 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:01 PM
Reji (Guest): Self examination
Sep 8, 5:01 PM
Simone (Guest): good points Carol
Sep 8, 5:01 PM
Donna (Guest): All yes!
Sep 8, 5:01 PM
Dawn (Guest): complete , Carol!
ep 8, 5:01 PMDonna (Guest): Say I love you Lord always!
ep 8, 5:01 PM
Carol (Guest): All that reading is good for something…
Sep 8, 5:02 PM
Simone (Guest): lol.. yes Carol
ep 8, 5:02 PM
Sep 8, 5:02 PM
Reji (Guest): A great deal attend daily mass in person
Sep 8, 5:02 PMSimone (Guest): such a privilege to have mass near by
Sep 8, 5:03 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q This letter speaks of a certain unnamed disagreement between the two persons, and an attempt on the bishop’s part to make amends. Does it seem that he is going overboard in expressing his feelings to this woman? How would a bishop of today write to a woman about an issue like this?
Sep 8, 5:03 PM
Reji (Guest): Try to be in the presence of God
ep 8, 5:03 PM
Reji (Guest): In all what we do
Sep 8, 5:03 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes!
Sep 8, 5:03 PMSimone (Guest): I attended a 4 day retreat – just came back.. took a protestant friend with me – who would love to become Catholic – but her husband threatens with divorce if she does.. she sat in mass – crying – just watching our LORD in the Eucharist.. that’s when I realized what a treasure it is – to be able to go so often and take communion
ep 8, 5:04 PM
Dawn (Guest): yes it is. many people can not even attend Mass. or travel far. I always feel so grateful the Lord gets me to Mass
Sep 8, 5:04 PM
Donna (Guest): Awe
Sep 8, 5:04 PMSimone (Guest): I don’t think he writes to her as a bishop.. but as her spiritual director. – who carries her soul. and he happens to be also her bishop
ep 8, 5:05 PMCarol (Guest): Lots of nuance to their relationship
Sep 8, 5:06 PMSimone (Guest): my last Spiritual director who was originally only my confessor .. said once “Simone.. there are some relationships.. specially spiritually ones.. that cannot be defined totally – they just have to be lived in Jesus”
ep 8, 5:06 PM
Donna (Guest): Love that!
Sep 8, 5:06 PM
Dawn (Guest): thank you Simone
Sep 8, 5:06 PM
SrSusan (Guest): taht is memorable!
Sep 8, 5:06 PM
SrSusan (Guest): that
ep 8, 5:06 PM
Carol (Guest): Because Jesus is the center of every relationshio
Sep 8, 5:06 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:07 PM
Reji (Guest): Yes a TRUE advice
Sep 8, 5:07 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): I’m doubt you that a Bishop today would write with depth of feeling to any friend – man or woman. Its not safe
ep 8, 5:07 PM
Simone (Guest): I agree Mary Ann .. that nowadays.. they might be much more careful. And that might be wise too
ep 8, 5:07 PM
Donna (Guest): St Francis is the only one I know…
Sep 8, 5:07 PM
Reji (Guest): I understand
Sep 8, 5:08 PMReji (Guest): It’s sad part of our time and age
Sep 8, 5:08 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:08 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Its sad
Sep 8, 5:08 PMCarol (Guest): We do have a terrible habit of scandal hunting now, and making inenup if we can’t find a real one
ep 8, 5:09 PM
Simone (Guest): “scandal hunting”… that’s a good word
Sep 8, 5:09 PM
Reji (Guest): But we do have other means of communication
Sep 8, 5:09 PM
Reji (Guest): Such as this
Sep 8, 5:09 PM
Dawn (Guest): yes Carol. perhaps this is why my Bishop I think of him as cloistered
ep 8, 5:10 PM
SrSusan (Guest): interesting- does he get involved in diocesan events
Sep 8, 5:10 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Familiarity leads to misunderstanding- formality however – is cystral clear
Sep 8, 5:10 PM
SrSusan (Guest): our Bishop is very active in all parts of the diocese
ep 8, 5:10 PMSimone (Guest): but familiarity also leads to profound deep relationships
Sep 8, 5:11 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): I think a great Pope Leo xiii said that😀
Sep 8, 5:11 PM
SrSusan (Guest): q Does this letter sound a little like St. Paul writing to various Christian communities who were guilty of sins, but whom Paul wanted to win again for Christ?
Sep 8, 5:11 PM
Simone (Guest): if St. Francis would have stayed “crystal clear” formal with St. Jane – the world would have never be gifted with Salesian Spirituality
Sep 8, 5:11 PM
Donna (Guest): True
Sep 8, 5:11 PM
Dawn (Guest): He closed all social media accounts . I think he does a few things with the faithful there. So I have adopted the Archbishop of SF. he is tranparent and engaging with the faithful
Sep 8, 5:12 PM
Simone (Guest): But I agree. sometimes familiarity has brought priests in trouble. The enemy uses even good things.. like relationships
Sep 8, 5:12 PM
Carol (Guest): It’s a tight rope for sure. This hyper criticalness we have now will pass like any other fad
p 8, 5:13 PMMary Ann (Guest): Please God – i hope i live to see it
ep 8, 5:13 PM
Ruth (Guest): The Swiss father of a priest friend sighed a letter — a very friendly letter to me with the same closing that Saint Francis used in signing his letter — the humble servant part — and I remember not knowing what to make of it, wondering if it was cultural, or related to his age. He had been so gracious to me when I visited in person one time.
Sep 8, 5:13 PM
Reji (Guest): It takes time and grace
Sep 8, 5:13 PM
Dawn (Guest): Good term Carol. and I would add hyper offensiveness
ep 8, 5:14 PMSimone (Guest): I think it shows how much he honoured you Ruth
ep 8, 5:14 PM
Donna (Guest): Wow
Sep 8, 5:14 PM
Simone (Guest): and I totally agree with “hyper offensiveness”
Sep 8, 5:14 PMCarol (Guest): We are all just so offended by everything, including being offended. The work of the enemy
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes!
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Simone (Guest): in Colossians it says..” bear with each other”
ep 8, 5:15 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Reji (Guest): TRUE this too will pass
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Yes – Paul asked for gentle f
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Simone (Guest): LOL.. you are right.. I am offended by others who are constantly offended
Sep 8, 5:15 PM
Dawn (Guest): Lol
Sep 8, 5:16 PM
Donna (Guest): 😂
ep 8, 5:16 PMCarol (Guest): It’s achieved ridiculous proportions. The balloon has to deflate–or explode
ep 8, 5:16 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Asked for mutual Charity from stubborn children
Sep 8, 5:16 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes Carol!
Sep 8, 5:17 PMDawn (Guest): MaryAnn..your adult children you mean?
Sep 8, 5:17 PMSimone (Guest): to be honest.. this letter did not remind me on St. Paul’s letters
ep 8, 5:18 PM
Donna (Guest): No
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Simone (Guest): St. Paul was much more “teaching” in his writings.. this letter was more personal
ep 8, 5:18 PM
Dawn (Guest): My adult children are in constant state of offensiveness. I think , as Catol said, much of this is the enemy, who seems to be working overtime right now
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Me either – but i see the connection now that she mentioned it
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Simone (Guest): it did not have any references to church, or Christology
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Simone (Guest): tell me about it Mary Ann please
Sep 8, 5:18 PM
Simone (Guest): the connection
ep 8, 5:19 PM
Simone (Guest): you don’t have to answer if it is too complicated to write down.. I would understand..
Sep 8, 5:19 PM
Ruth (Guest): Good image, Carol.
ep 8, 5:21 PMMary Ann (Guest): Bith are Isort of like a parents gentle instruction/and correction to a child
ep 8, 5:21 PM
Simone (Guest): I see.. and St. Paul truly came across very paternal to the recepients of his letters
Sep 8, 5:21 PM
SrSusan (Guest): St Paul did corect in his letters, true
ep 8, 5:22 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Frances wants her to calm down and remember the depth of thier
Sep 8, 5:22 PM
Simone (Guest): and he also always pointed out.. if he corrected, that he is doing this out of love for them
Sep 8, 5:22 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): lfeelings for one another
ep 8, 5:22 PMSrSusan (Guest): q We all know about family members who have a squabble and cease to speak to one another for years on end. How does this letter help us repair relationships between family and friends, or prevent these breakups from getting worse?
Sep 8, 5:23 PM
Donna (Guest): Avoid unnecessary conflict put on God’s love
Sep 8, 5:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): his wording and how he approaches with truth in love
ep 8, 5:24 PM
Ruth (Guest): I wonder what it would have been like if they could have talked by phone. Sometimes people read into written statements a different “tone of voice” than was meant.
Sep 8, 5:24 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:24 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Always remember to tell your siblings you love them even if you disagree- and never forget to laugh at yourself
Sep 8, 5:24 PM
Dawn (Guest): good advice Mary Ann!
Sep 8, 5:25 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
Sep 8, 5:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): Great question, Carol.
Sep 8, 5:25 PM
Simone (Guest): I think this letter would be a most lovely template for a family member –
ep 8, 5:25 PMDawn (Guest): and your children. never leave a conversation open to the enemy
ep 8, 5:25 PM
Dawn (Guest): I think the same Simone
Sep 8, 5:25 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): And ask for hugs – and give them freely and often
ep 8, 5:26 PM
Carol (Guest): We tend to treat people differently when they are above or below us
Sep 8, 5:26 PM
Donna (Guest): Yes
ep 8, 5:27 PM
Simone (Guest): you are right Carol.. there can be a “professional barrier”…. but everyone is human.. and sometimes it is just the right thing to address a superior as a human .. outside of the role I find
Sep 8, 5:27 PM
Ruth (Guest): I like that advice Mary Ann.
Sep 8, 5:27 PMSrSusan (Guest): yes touches the heart
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SrSusan (Guest): We are drawing to the close of this hour. Again, wonderful discussion and insights!
Sep 8, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): I have to leave now.. thanks again everyone.. be blessed with good relationships this week.. and let us all love well.. good night
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Dawn (Guest): Hi Rose, I see you are in here
Sep 8, 5:29 PM
Mary Ann (Guest): Human touch is powerfully healing – who can stay mad when they get a hug??
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SrSusan (Guest): Blessings and prayers for all during this week!
Sep 8, 5:29 PM
Carol (Guest): I wish every one a blessed week!
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Donna (Guest): Good night and God bless all of you!
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Mary Ann (Guest): ❤️
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Dawn (Guest): thank you everyone! Gods blessings to you and your families and sisters. Gnight all
Sep 8, 5:30 PM
Carol (Guest): We will all be together again soon!
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