May 25, 2025 chat, from Chatroll.com
May 22, 8:15 AM
SrSusan (Guest): Even though Christ is the ultimate foundation of the Church, why is it important that we focus on the foundation He laid in building the Church?With this talk of the Church being founded and having a foundation, how does St. Francis point to the Church as an institution and not just a vague idea of people united in belief?Why is it important for the Pope and Bishops to see themselves as delegated shepherds, or Shepherds’ helpers, as opposed to being the ultimate shepherds of the Church?Discuss all of this i
May 22, 8:15 AM
SrSusan (Guest): in light of the parable of the house built upon rock (Matthew 7:24-27), which starts: “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock.”Why might people not like this idea of there being an assigned head or shepherd over the whole Church (i.e., the Pope)?Once it is denied that a single person can guide the Church, does it follow that any Christian can set himself up as his own Pope? Sign up for our Living Jesus Chat Room:Come to our Living
May 22, 8:21 AM
SrSusan (Guest): sun chat 730-830p est
May 22, 10:16 PM
Kiwi (Guest): Hi
May 25, 5:46 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Are you following Pope Leos talks
May 25, 6:21 PM
Carol Ann: I have seen some of them. I am encouraged
May 25, 6:22 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I am too
May 25, 6:24 PM
Carol Ann: Even his choice of name–he was elected on a feast of St Michael and Leo XXIII wrote the prayer we use. And Leomthe XXIII was the first tomtackle social,issues
May 25, 6:24 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Yes and he consrcrated thw
May 25, 6:25 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): E world to the Sacred Heart
May 25, 6:25 PM
Carol Ann: Warriors, both of them
May 25, 6:25 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): May 8 is what feast of St Michael
May 25, 6:26 PM
Carol Ann: https://www.virgosacrata.com/apparition-of-st-michael.html
May 25, 6:26 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Oh!
May 25, 6:28 PM
Carol Ann: I guess it’s not very well known in the west
May 25, 6:29 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I did not know thank you for this
May 25, 6:30 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Sign in viewers
May 25, 6:31 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Can you post the first question
May 25, 6:31 PM
Carol Ann: Here’s another cool link. https://skelligislands.com/st-michael-line/
May 25, 6:32 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): So interesting do you have Special devotion to St Michael
May 25, 6:32 PM
Carol Ann: There is a line of St Michael’s mnasteries from Skellig in Ireland to Mt Carmel
May 25, 6:32 PM
Carol Ann: Yes
May 25, 6:32 PM
Carol Ann: Hi Ruth!
May 25, 6:33 PM
May 25, 6:35 PM
Carol Ann: Actually there are no questions in the newsletter
May 25, 6:36 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Why is it important to focus on the foundation He laid in building the Church
Carol Ann: How sophisticated that sounds, lol
May 25, 6:37 PM
Carol Ann: We need to focus on the Church Christ gave us because we need community, and alsoma firm hierarchy of authority
May 25, 6:38 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I imagine that we should slways respect how the Lord does something
May 25, 6:39 PM
Ruth (Guest): I volunteer Carol to post!😀. Cuz I am so slow. OK I’ll try.
May 25, 6:39 PM
Carol Ann: I wish I remember where I read it, but the early Church was having a problem. Instead of going to John, who was still alive at the time, they went farther away to Pope Clement
May 25, 6:39 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Today many are not fond of hierarchy but if Jesus set it up that way we should be happy to respect his choice
May 25, 6:40 PM
Ruth (Guest): Hmm. You are still with us, Sister!
May 25, 6:40 PM
Carol Ann: Which seems to prove the early church not only had popes but respected their authority
May 25, 6:40 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I HAD not heard of that either Caro
May 25, 6:41 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): CAROL
May 25, 6:42 PM
Carol Ann: It sounds unbelievable but there is a man who Posts about Catholic teaching on Facebook. That’s probably where I got it
May 25, 6:42 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I wont be able to post the rest of q
May 25, 6:42 PM
Ruth (Guest): When I was growing up, my father told me all about the bad popes. He was raised in an Anglican family or his mother was Anglican anyway, and he had some remarkably bad early experiences a nun in a neighboring church.
May 25, 6:43 PM
Carol Ann: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2419255661497957. It’s called Catholic Christianity
May 25, 6:43 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I DONTknow how to go to blog and then back to chat
May 25, 6:43 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): On a phone
May 25, 6:44 PM
Carol Ann: I did it on my computer by opening a second window and going to the blog. Too hard to do on a phone
May 25, 6:44 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Yes computer I can
May 25, 6:45 PM
Carol Ann: I’m not sure if ive sidetracked us though.
May 25, 6:45 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): If anyone can please do
May 25, 6:45 PM
Victoria (Guest): Hi
May 25, 6:45 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Hi Victoria
May 25, 6:46 PM
Carol Ann: How does St. Francis point to the Church as an institution?
May 25, 6:46 PM
Victoria (Guest): You can hold your finger on a link and you can open on a second tab on a phone
May 25, 6:46 PM
Carol Ann: Hi Victoria!
May 25, 6:46 PM
Victoria (Guest): Hi everyone
May 25, 6:46 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Thanks CAROL
May 25, 6:47 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Hi All
May 25, 6:47 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Hi Lisa
May 25, 6:47 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Hi Mother
May 25, 6:48 PM
Victoria (Guest): Hey Lisa Susan Carol and Ruth
May 25, 6:48 PM
Carol Ann: Lisa! How are you?
May 25, 6:48 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Well, how are you
May 25, 6:48 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): ST FRancis esd a great lover of the Church
May 25, 6:48 PM
Carol Ann: I am hanging in there
May 25, 6:49 PM
Victoria (Guest): I will be right back, have to feed my cats
May 25, 6:50 PM
Carol Ann: I am thinking that an institutional church would guard the deposit of Faith
May 25, 6:51 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): ST FRancis de Sales Catholic Controversy book has many insights
May 25, 6:51 PM
Carol Ann: I have not heard of that
May 25, 6:53 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): IT WAS put together from his pamphlets when he was converting the protestants in Geneva
May 25, 6:53 PM
Lisa C (Guest): For 2000 years we had no trouble guarding the Faith until the last 12. It is amazing how it was protected and developed via the Holy Spirit and the Apostolic Succession. It did not change
May 25, 6:53 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): It didn’t let me post even what I typed or dictated. I just signed in again.
May 25, 6:53 PM
Carol Ann: I will have to try to find a copy
May 25, 6:53 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): IT might be online
May 25, 6:54 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): This is like a phone. It’s an iPad.
May 25, 6:54 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): The arguments are good
May 25, 6:54 PM
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May 25, 6:54 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): The questions are in my email or were.
May 25, 6:55 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I pasted the link from Amazon, but it blanked out
May 25, 6:55 PM
Carol Ann: Are we ready for the next one?
May 25, 6:55 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The book is on Amazon
May 25, 6:55 PM
Carol Ann: That’s odd. Amazon usually likes it when we buy stuff
May 25, 6:55 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): LISa that happenef to me too but Carol seems to have been able
May 25, 6:56 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Yes ready
May 25, 6:56 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Anyway you can search it on Amazon
May 25, 6:56 PM
Carol Ann: Why is it important for Popes and Bishops to think of themselves as shepherds?
May 25, 6:57 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): In imitation of the Good Shepherd?
May 25, 6:57 PM
Lisa C (Guest): They are supposed to be like Jesus who is a shepherd not losing us
May 25, 6:57 PM
Carol Ann: To go deeper, as shepherd’s helpers or delegated shepherds rather than The Shepherd
May 25, 6:58 PM
Lisa C (Guest): They are supposed to guide us in the way of the Faith
May 25, 6:58 PM
Carol Ann: In part also to keep them from thinking they control the flock
May 25, 6:58 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Shepherds show the sheep where to go and protect them
May 25, 6:58 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): My chat page ad the email are on two different platforms.
May 25, 6:59 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): THERE is a close relation between shepherd and sheep
May 25, 6:59 PM
Carol Ann: Yes, and the shepherd guards the flock for Someone else
May 25, 6:59 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The children at Fatima were shepherds
May 25, 7:00 PM
Carol Ann: They were!
May 25, 7:00 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): I was thinking of getting a couple of lambs to keep my lawn mowed! I wonder if they would be safe around here. Predators!
May 25, 7:00 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Heaven chooses shepherds so many times
May 25, 7:00 PM
Carol Ann: You would need a fence and an aggressive sheep dog
May 25, 7:01 PM
Lisa C (Guest): They gave us messages from Blessed Mother as to how to stay within the Faith….so they wound up being shepherds to us too
May 25, 7:01 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Yes true
May 25, 7:01 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): And it stsrt
May 25, 7:01 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Yes, the shepherds were the first to see Baby Jesus
May 25, 7:01 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): STarted at bethlehem
May 25, 7:01 PM
Carol Ann: The sheep do not exist for the shepherd but rather the shepherd for the sheep
May 25, 7:02 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): So we nèed to trust the shepherds
May 25, 7:03 PM
Carol Ann: A d the shepherds can’t forget the are serving the sheep and the Shepherd
May 25, 7:03 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Only when they stay faithful to the true faith
May 25, 7:04 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): In the Church version, sure. but an elderly couple I know who buy lambs each spring, sell them for meat in the fall. the couple are really devout, but the sheep are for them a practical solution to a problem
May 25, 7:04 PM
Carol Ann: That is implicit. We have far too many examples of leaders who forget
May 25, 7:04 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Sheep do not follow falseshepherds they dont recognize the voice
May 25, 7:04 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Yes, Mother
May 25, 7:06 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Nec
May 25, 7:06 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Next q?
May 25, 7:06 PM
Carol Ann: Next question is harder. How does all we’ve been saying connect with the parable of the house built in rock.
May 25, 7:07 PM
Carol Ann: Oops, on rock
May 25, 7:08 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Church house built on Peter the rock?
May 25, 7:08 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): Just today I was on the phone with a high school friend who told me she was frightened and upset upon seeing a small critter mouse or a chipmunk run across the floor in her kitchen. She was also taking during the week a Bible study course and they were studying Genesis. Then she started asking yourself why doesn’t she have dominion over those animals in her house? God gave it to Adam and Eve to name the animals and have dominion over them. Hmmm. In this view, the people hshepherds
May 25, 7:08 PM
Lisa C (Guest): The people who hear Jesus and keep His word are building on rock. The people who hear it and ignore it sink into the sand.
May 25, 7:09 PM
Carol Ann: The house on rock is stable, and does not shift around like a house built on sand
May 25, 7:09 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): Shepherds are in charge.
May 25, 7:11 PM
Carol Ann: Why do people not like the idea of an assigned head?
May 25, 7:11 PM
Carol Ann: One whomis shepherd of the whole Church
May 25, 7:11 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): A struggle in our natures against obedience
May 25, 7:12 PM
Carol Ann: That sounds likely
May 25, 7:13 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Does being in an obedient community help with being obedient?
May 25, 7:13 PM
Lisa C (Guest): I think it is kind of like a protection. There is an expectation that you will be good.
May 25, 7:13 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I THINK so grace is abundant
May 25, 7:13 PM
Carol Ann: I think so, as long as the person practices humility and fights pride at every turn
May 25, 7:14 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): People as
May 25, 7:14 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Also have fears
May 25, 7:14 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Yes, Mother, when in VA it was easy to be good. It is confusing when you leave the community.
May 25, 7:15 PM
Carol Ann: Yes, because leadership often has its own struggles with pride and obedience
May 25, 7:15 PM
Lisa C (Guest): There is no order, no structure, no guarantee that people have your best interest at heart
May 25, 7:15 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): it depends a lot on WHO the shepherd is, his ideas and ideals.
May 25, 7:16 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): And humility which every saint encourages
May 25, 7:16 PM
Carol Ann: Have you heard of Leonies Longing Lisa? They can help with the transition
May 25, 7:17 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Do you mean St. T’s sister?
May 25, 7:17 PM
Carol Ann: Yes, there is a group who helps women transitioning out of community and they use Leonie’s name
May 25, 7:18 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Carol I was talking about Catholic school. Not leaving a Religious community
May 25, 7:18 PM
Lisa C (Guest): But it was a religius community
May 25, 7:18 PM
Carol Ann: It’s difficult Lisa. Ive done it to. I am available for you if you want to talk
May 25, 7:18 PM
Carol Ann: Ooh haha on me
May 25, 7:19 PM
Carol Ann: Next question
May 25, 7:19 PM
Lisa C (Guest): It was growing up at Mother Susan’s Monastery school
May 25, 7:19 PM
Lisa C (Guest): LOL
May 25, 7:19 PM
Lisa C (Guest): It was a very sheltered community and there was goodness all around
May 25, 7:20 PM
Carol Ann: So if a person can deny that a single person can guide the church,does that mean that every person can be his own pope?
May 25, 7:20 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): I KNOw someone who could benefit th anks
May 25, 7:20 PM
Carol Ann: It sounds lovely, LISA
May 25, 7:20 PM
Lisa C (Guest): God everywhere
May 25, 7:20 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Blessed Mother too
May 25, 7:21 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Sounds like rebellion trying to be own pope
May 25, 7:22 PM
Carol Ann: But people try tombs their own leader all the time. Just witness how fragmented our church has become
May 25, 7:22 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Not even the Pope guides the whole Church. He is supposed to listen to his college of Cardinals, and the Bishops
May 25, 7:22 PM
Carol Ann: Well, that’s true. He does it in community, but he’s still in charge
May 25, 7:23 PM
Carol Ann: Is it an act of pride to say you can lead yourself and don’t need any (earthly) help?
May 25, 7:23 PM
Lisa C (Guest): If he is good he listens to them when they tell him he is making a mistake
May 25, 7:23 PM
Carol Ann: Amen Lisa
May 25, 7:25 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): Good question, Carol Ann. It is the need for clear authority that has led many Protestants, including Ministers to become Catholic.
May 25, 7:25 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Probably is pride
May 25, 7:25 PM
Carol Ann: That and the Eucharist Ruth
May 25, 7:26 PM
SR SUSAN (Guest): Thank you for doing this Tonight As I sit here the cold came out so thay why I frlt weak have a blessed night
May 25, 7:26 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): Yes,the Eucharist!
May 25, 7:26 PM
Carol Ann: Thank you Sr Susan, I will pray for you
May 25, 7:26 PM
Lisa C (Guest): A cold?
May 25, 7:27 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Fell better soon
May 25, 7:27 PM
Carol Ann: And please pray for my friend Lou. She will be having surgery on thursday
May 25, 7:27 PM
Lisa C (Guest): Yes
May 25, 7:27 PM
Ruth 2 (Guest): Adding her to my prayer list for this week.
May 25, 7:27 PM
Carol Ann: Thank you