Why would meditation not be suitable while someone is sick? Would the type of sickness make a difference?What is “holy and tranquil resignation”? And why can someone do that but not meditate?How is suffering/sickness valuable to offer to God?If suffering is advantageous, should we then just pray for suffering and sickness to come upon s?Why is the rhythm of meditation and silence so important for our lives, especially in this age of perpetual distractions from smartphones, internet, social media, etc.?When we are sick, how do we get our minds off of our bad feelings, and onto thoughts of God?
ul 27, 4:35 PMCarol (Guest): Depending on how sick they are, they may not have the strength
ul 27, 4:35 PMSimone (Guest): I thought the same Carol.
ul 27, 4:36 PMKathy (Guest): Or frame of mind
Jul 27, 4:36 PM
Simone (Guest): I know that a friend of mine.. who went through chemotherapy thought she could use the time off to intensify her prayers.. but she said.. she actually never did
Jul 27, 4:36 PM
SrSusan (Guest): maybe interior vocal prayer or just looking at a crucifix
Jul 27, 4:36 PM
Simone (Guest): I think we underestimate how our body influences our prayer life
ul 27, 4:36 PMSimone (Guest): I should say.. “normal prayer life”
Jul 27, 4:37 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Would the type of sickness make a difference?
Jul 27, 4:37 PM
Simone (Guest): when my husband went through chemo he was sooo sick.. and could not pray at all in the way he was used to.. but God started praying in HIm.. and that was the beginning of our journey into the Catholic Church actually
ul 27, 4:38 PM
Carol (Guest): When I am not feeling well sometimes all I can do is listen to hymns
Jul 27, 4:38 PM
Simone (Guest): type of sickness totally makes a diffeence
ul 27, 4:38 PMSimone (Guest): I often pray better when sick.. it catapultes me into the state of “spiritual poverty” — and that fuels my prayer I find
Jul 27, 4:39 PMKathy (Guest): If it’s a minor cold, it shouldn’t matter.
Jul 27, 4:39 PM
SrSusan (Guest): offering the pain is a prayer
Jul 27, 4:39 PM
Ruth (Guest): I agree, and even the time of day or moment in course of the day’s treatments.
Jul 27, 4:39 PM
Simone (Guest): You speak from experience Ruth..
Jul 27, 4:40 PM
Carol (Guest): No, but some illnesses make your thought go off
Jul 27, 4:40 PMSimone (Guest): true
Jul 27, 4:40 PM
SrSusan (Guest): What is “holy and tranquil resignation”? And why can someone do that but not meditate?
Jul 27, 4:41 PM
Simone (Guest): I love the wording.. holy and tranquil resignation
Jul 27, 4:41 PMRuth (Guest): But I think that even the clear intent to pray, the desire, is itself a prayer
Jul 27, 4:41 PM
Simone (Guest): meditation needs cognitive input.. and when I am sick.. my brain is not able to process words as usual
Jul 27, 4:41 PM
Carol (Guest): Resignation is acceptance of the Cross
ul 27, 4:42 PMSimone (Guest): resignation is surrender.. and that is prayer
ul 27, 4:42 PMSimone (Guest): yes Ruth.. I agree.. God sees it all
Jul 27, 4:43 PMSrSusan (Guest): I think it is a grace we receive – this holy tranquil resignation
Jul 27, 4:43 PM
Simone (Guest): that is a good way to look at it..
Jul 27, 4:43 PM
Carol (Guest): When God is changing us and not the situation
Jul 27, 4:43 PM
Simone (Guest): Love it Carol
Jul 27, 4:44 PM
SrSusan (Guest): when we have leaned on God for everything else, when sickness comes we naturally rest in Him
Jul 27, 4:44 PM
Kathy (Guest): Silence has brought some incredible moments.
Jul 27, 4:44 PM
Ruth (Guest): And I found that attempting to pray the Divine Office with the others (on the app) on iPad helped. It’s a little like just showing up at a prayer service.
Jul 27, 4:44 PMSrSusan (Guest): yes community helps
ul 27, 4:45 PM
Simone (Guest): Ruth.. I also link myself with the Divine Office community – and enjoy their singing
Jul 27, 4:45 PM
SrSusan (Guest): How is suffering/sickness valuable to offer to God?
Jul 27, 4:45 PMRuth (Guest): Carol, I like that: when God is changing us.Jul 27, 4:46 PMSimone (Guest): Hi Dawn.. I was so hoping you would come to the chat today
Jul 27, 4:47 PMCarol (Guest): There are several apps for the Office and some parishes are posting morning and evening mon you tube
Jul 27, 4:48 PM
Simone (Guest): I always have a conflict with offering up my pain. Cause to be honest.. when I am really in pain.. I only can pray that God heals me as fast as possible. That is somewhat a conflict I find with offering it up. But.. when I am just sick.. without severe pain.. then it is easier for me to offer it up
Jul 27, 4:48 PM
Dawn (Guest): Sorry I’m late. But glad I’m here
Jul 27, 4:48 PM
Simone (Guest): carol.. can you send some links for the you tube maybe?
Jul 27, 4:48 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I think when we offerour suffering/sickness to God we resemble Jesus on the cross
Jul 27, 4:50 PMSimone (Guest): I remember 2-3 years ago – before I had my big surgery.. I was so afraid of the pain.. and my spiritual director at that time had explained to me the power of offering it up.. and said.. I should use it for the healing of my daughter.. I remember that at the end of our talk.. I was hoping I would have pain.. I was so thrilled to be able to contribute
ul 27, 4:51 PM
Dawn (Guest): Oh. It’s Sing The Hours on you tube. Twice. Day. Beautiful
Jul 27, 4:51 PM
Elaine (Guest): Hi sister
Jul 27, 4:51 PM
SrSusan (Guest): It started a number of weeks back
Jul 27, 4:51 PM
Simone (Guest): Hi Elaine
Jul 27, 4:52 PM
Carol (Guest): Anyway, it’s St Joseph Catholic Church in Jacksonville Florida. If you put in vespers and the date it should come up
Jul 27, 4:52 PM
Dawn (Guest): Hi Elaine
Jul 27, 4:52 PM
Kathy (Guest): Does it matter if you are signed in as a guest or through a SM app?
Jul 27, 4:52 PM
Elaine (Guest): When I was a kid I remember being told that if I offered my suffering to Jesus I was lessening His pain.
Jul 27, 4:53 PM
Simone (Guest): I think the webmaster probably put it in as a security issue.. after some people misused the caht
Jul 27, 4:53 PM
Simone (Guest): how did you receive that as a child? Did that make sense to you?
Jul 27, 4:53 PM
Dawn (Guest): Paula. No I haven’t heard from her
ul 27, 4:54 PM
Elaine (Guest): I think I leave that to Gods will.
Jul 27, 4:55 PM
Simone (Guest): I cannot do that to be honest
Jul 27, 4:55 PM
Kathy (Guest): If I could take away someone else’s suffering, I would.
Jul 27, 4:55 PM
Carol (Guest): That sounds kinda prideful…give it to me I’m tough
ul 27, 4:55 PM
Carol (Guest): Don’t you just wish we could
Jul 27, 4:55 PM
Elaine (Guest): I like yours sister we resemble Christ when we suffer.
Jul 27, 4:55 PM
Simone (Guest): I know that one of the young Italian saints – has refused painmedication in her dying with cancer.. in order to offer more suffering up..
Jul 27, 4:56 PM
SrSusan (Guest): God often takes us at our word when we make that kind of gesture or offering
ul 27, 4:56 PM
Simone (Guest): if someone prays for that.. I think they are ready to transform their suffering in eternal beauty
Jul 27, 4:56 PM
Ruth (Guest): They say some of the saints did, but it seem to me that the suffering God allows is sufficient .
Jul 27, 4:56 PM
Elaine (Guest): Suffering I believe can be offered for any reason even to help people. Am I right sister.
Jul 27, 4:56 PM
Simone (Guest): well said Ruth
Jul 27, 4:57 PM
Dawn (Guest): Yes, Ruth
ul 27, 4:57 PMSrSusan (Guest): yes Elaine but I would check with spiritual director first
ul 27, 4:57 PMElaine (Guest): Ok
ul 27, 4:58 PM
Simone (Guest): every form of suffering… eliminates sin in the world.. it is the holy respond to sin I think
Jul 27, 4:58 PM
SrSusan (Guest): but it is true saints have done that
ul 27, 4:59 PMSimone (Guest): it is like – a vacuum cleaner.. who sucks it away.. takes the “dirt” upon us.. to make way for the Kingdom
ul 27, 4:59 PMSrSusan (Guest): interesting image!
Jul 27, 5:00 PM
Ruth (Guest): I think parents often wish they could suffer instead of their child. As IF there were a SUM ZERO to suffering.
Jul 27, 5:00 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes
Jul 27, 5:00 PM
Kathy (Guest): Oh Simone! My mind goes to, Lamb of God, who sucks away the dirt of this world…
Jul 27, 5:01 PM
Simone (Guest): like that Kathy
ul 27, 5:01 PM
Simone (Guest): that is so true Ruth.. when my daughter was so very sick – and suffering.. I truly would have changed my place with her in an instant
Jul 27, 5:01 PM
Simone (Guest): I guess that’s what love does
ul 27, 5:02 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes and that’s how Jesus felt
Jul 27, 5:02 PM
Kathy (Guest): And we would do it for others because of our love for theirs.
Jul 27, 5:02 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, Simone.
ul 27, 5:02 PM
Carol (Guest): It is a humbling thought
Jul 27, 5:03 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Why is the rhythm of meditation and silence so important for our lives, especially in this age of perpetual distractions from smartphones, internet, social media, etc.?
ul 27, 5:04 PM
Kathy (Guest): It refocuses on what truly matters and is important—God.
Jul 27, 5:04 PM
Carol (Guest): It gives us a chance to re-center
ul 27, 5:04 PMElaine (Guest): It’s when we can communicate with God more intimately.
ul 27, 5:04 PM
Simone (Guest): my soul breathes deep when I pray and allow silence in my life
Jul 27, 5:05 PM
Dawn (Guest): Silence. I believe we grow in stillness
Jul 27, 5:05 PM
Kathy (Guest): It is spiritual healing
Jul 27, 5:05 PM
Simone (Guest): this breath catches the Breath of God.. Ruach.. the Spirit
Jul 27, 5:05 PMSimone (Guest): yes Kathy.. I truly agree.. it is indeed spiritual healing
Jul 27, 5:05 PMRuth (Guest): How I long for a rhythm! It seems my inner time keeper is broken. I do both chose# ilence and attempt to meditate, but the rhythm is non existent.
Jul 27, 5:06 PM
Dawn (Guest): There was a father reviving his 2byr old daughter praying that Simone
Jul 27, 5:06 PM
SrSusan (Guest): setting a personal horarium or schedule might help Ruth
Jul 27, 5:06 PM
Carol (Guest): Because I travel so much, I have a different rhythm each place
Jul 27, 5:06 PM
Simone (Guest): Ruth.. I know that a rhythm is so nice.. BUT… we do not need a rhythm to please God.. God knows your physical struggle.. he loves your random check ins..
ul 27, 5:07 PMSimone (Guest): I think.. it is very difficult to have a rhythm outside of community and being sick or active in the work world
Jul 27, 5:08 PM
SrSusan (Guest): St Francis de Sales did have some thoughts on it but may be impractical for todays world
Jul 27, 5:08 PM
Simone (Guest): I think you Dawn.. have a very good prayer rhythm,, right?
Jul 27, 5:08 PM
Elaine (Guest): When I can’t seem to meditate I take a religious picture and place myself in the scene while I read the story or remember it. I find that’s when I do my best meditating.
Jul 27, 5:08 PM
Simone (Guest): what did he say Sister?
Jul 27, 5:08 PM
Carol (Guest): I love prayer of the imagination too
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
SrSusan (Guest): For one he talked about setting time aside in the evening when we are tired it is better for meditation, but I personally would fall asleep!
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
Simone (Guest): I always meditate best in the evening.. even night..
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
Simone (Guest): But I am a night owl
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
SrSusan (Guest): a true daughter of SFDS
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
Simone (Guest): awe.. thanks Sister
Jul 27, 5:09 PM
Dawn (Guest): I wish I were more disiplined but being alone it is thru out the day
my holy reading to bed – and ponder on it before I fall asleep – I love this actually.. also keeps away unwanted thoughts before you fall asleep
Jul 27, 5:11 PM
Dawn (Guest): Well, I said alone.
Jul 27, 5:11 PM
Carol (Guest): Especially Song of Songs
Jul 27, 5:11 PM
SrSusan (Guest): If I don’t have enough silence I do not function well
Jul 27, 5:11 PMDawn (Guest): It’s alone but not alone
Jul 27, 5:11 PMSimone (Guest): Silence is for me as important as food.
Jul 27, 5:12 PM
Ruth (Guest): On several days the air was so toxic I felt almost panicked, as if I were drowning. Hard to pray at those times, esp. when
Jul 27, 5:12 PM
SrSusan (Guest): God’s food for the soul
ul 27, 5:12 PMSimone (Guest): We never have radio or TV on at home during the day. I need access to my inner world and my inner talks with GOD during the day. If there is no silence.. it totally throws me off after a short while
Jul 27, 5:13 PMSimone (Guest): do you mean extreme humidity Ruth? We had that here too… and it felt like the air was liquid.. very strange.. and I also panicked a bit outside
Jul 27, 5:15 PMCarol (Guest): Heat does that to me
Jul 27, 5:15 PMSimone (Guest): oh Carol… I really understand you
ul 27, 5:16 PMRuth (Guest): No, TOXIC, burning building materials twice, when overall a it Qual it was good. Yesterday forest fires.
Simone (Guest): oh.. I see.. that sounds nasty Ruth
Jul 27, 5:16 PM
Kathy (Guest): We’ve had haze from forest fires,
Jul 27, 5:16 PM
Kathy (Guest): I get it Ruth
Jul 27, 5:17 PM
Carol (Guest): We’ve had fires here where the whole sky turns orange
Jul 27, 5:17 PM
Simone (Guest): oh Lord.. have mercy..
Jul 27, 5:18 PM
Carol (Guest): Its the weirdest thing because the green grass is brownorange
Jul 27, 5:18 PM
SrSusan (Guest): When we are sick,or troubled by the above toxic environment how do we get our minds off of our bad feelings, and onto thoughts of God?
ul 27, 5:18 PM
Ruth (Guest): And supposedly the fire department sent an officer to tell me NOT to call unless it is a REAL EMERGENCY.
Jul 27, 5:18 PM
Carol (Guest): Prayer!
Jul 27, 5:19 PM
Kathy (Guest): I sing the Ave Maria.
Jul 27, 5:19 PM
Dawn (Guest): I’ll usually grab my rosary to begin
ul 27, 5:19 PMElaine (Guest): Talking with God about my feelings and the situation
ul 27, 5:20 PMElaine (Guest): Yes the Rosary is so calming.
ul 27, 5:20 PMSimone (Guest): it seems that vocal prayer works best for most people in time of distress.
ul 27, 5:21 PMSimone (Guest): Elaine.. I am probably also like you.. I cry out to God more than engaging in vocal prayer
Jul 27, 5:21 PMElaine (Guest): Maybe even joining with others or a Rosary from tv.
ul 27, 5:22 PM
Simone (Guest): joining with others would be helpful for me.. not sure if the TV would work for me.. we also have no cable TV
Jul 27, 5:22 PM
Simone (Guest): but there are rosaries on You tube and FFORMED
Jul 27, 5:22 PM
Dawn (Guest): Elaine, yes helpful to join with others especially live rosary
ul 27, 5:22 PMRuth (Guest): Air Quality was overall GOOD. BUT How am I to know that it isn’t someone’s HOUSE a on fire? Officer could not say.
Jul 27, 5:23 PM
Simone (Guest): you are right Ruth…
Jul 27, 5:23 PM
Dawn (Guest): There is a Traditional priest Fr Pillari he leads Rosary every day no matter where he is
Jul 27, 5:24 PMElaine (Guest): My favorite way of saying the Rosary is I think they call it the Spiritual Rosaey. On each bead you remember a part of the Mistary you are on.
ul 27, 5:24 PMCarol (Guest): There are so many beautiful resources online now. I use them frequently
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
Simone (Guest): Sister.. is this really your last Sunday here now on the chat?
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
Ruth (Guest): Elaine, that is how we prayed the rosary in Munich, in the Dom.
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
Elaine (Guest): Yes it’s beautiful.
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
Kathy (Guest): There is a blue book from my youth. You say a passage from scripture right before the bead.
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Yes unless perchance I am still here next Sunday which is likely as the date has moved but I cant guarantee we now have an Aug 8 date
Jul 27, 5:25 PM
Simone (Guest): scriptural rosary?
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Simone (Guest): So.. since that could be your last Sunday now Sister.. can we use the last 5 minutes – to say good bye?
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Elaine (Guest): Yes Scriptual.
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes of course
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Simone (Guest): I know you have to leave on time
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
SrSusan (Guest): You have all been so inspiring to me
ul 27, 5:26 PM
Elaine (Guest): Sister can you continue when you move to another place.
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Simone (Guest): Sister.. I just want you to know, that your vision with the Visitation Spirit was truly god inspired
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
SrSusan (Guest): No Elaine
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Ruth (Guest): We’ll MISS YOU Sr. Susan!
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Simone (Guest): Thank you so much for providing a place for me here – when I had no-one here around who understood my desire –
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Thank you! This has been a great almost 14 year journey
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Simone (Guest): my desire for Salesian Spirituality – my desire to live fully for God –
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Carol (Guest): I have been here for so many years. You are such a big part of my life
ul 27, 5:26 PM
Elaine (Guest): Yes Scriptual.
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
SrSusan (Guest): yes of course
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Simone (Guest): I know you have to leave on time
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
SrSusan (Guest): You have all been so inspiring to me
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Elaine (Guest): Sister can you continue when you move to another place.
Jul 27, 5:26 PM
Simone (Guest): Sister.. I just want you to know, that your vision with the Visitation Spirit was truly god inspired
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
SrSusan (Guest): No Elaine
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Ruth (Guest): We’ll MISS YOU Sr. Susan!
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Simone (Guest): Thank you so much for providing a place for me here – when I had no-one here around who understood my desire –
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Thank you! This has been a great almost 14 year journey
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Simone (Guest): my desire for Salesian Spirituality – my desire to live fully for God –
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Carol (Guest): I have been here for so many years. You are such a big part of my life
Jul 27, 5:27 PM
Kathy (Guest): I am blessed to have found you and look forward to meeting you!
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
Simone (Guest): you gave me a place here to connect with others – and it was just so so valuable for me and my spiritual journey
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
Carol (Guest): I think ive been here thirteen years? Twelve for sure
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
Simone (Guest): that’s amazing Carol!
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
Elaine (Guest): Yes I truly enjoyed and learned so much from you Sister and everyone. Also all the beautiful and Spirital things you did for everyone at our Monestary. Thank you so much. We were Blessed.
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
SrSusan (Guest): sometime in 2011 we began the website not sure about the chat section
Jul 27, 5:28 PM
SrSusan (Guest): You are all profoundly spiritual!
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): You deserve now a time of deep silence again.. your first vocational calling
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): silence and prayer
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I hope you can continue for a while until the Federation ends the site
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Ruth (Guest): I think I’ve been coming almost 14 years!
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): and I am sure God will fill your silence with Him as much as He filled your words and actions in the last years with Him
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Carol (Guest): I am going to really miss you
ul 27, 5:29 PM
Ruth (Guest): I think I’ve been coming almost 14 years!
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): and I am sure God will fill your silence with Him as much as He filled your words and actions in the last years with Him
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Carol (Guest): I am going to really miss you
Jul 27, 5:29 PM
Simone (Guest): I will miss you too Sister.
Jul 27, 5:30 PM
Simone (Guest): But.. I have great hope that you will remember us all in prayer
Jul 27, 5:30 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Thank you I too will miss each of you!!!
Jul 27, 5:30 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Yes I will have you in my heart and prayer
Jul 27, 5:30 PM
Simone (Guest): United in Spirit and prayer.. that’s the beauty of being a citizen of the Divine Kingdom
Jul 27, 5:31 PM
Ruth (Guest): Yes, I’ve seen you growing in the Lord, Carol and in peace.
ul 27, 5:31 PMDawn (Guest): Sr , you and this chat has been a big part of journeying back to the church. I can not think good
ul 27, 5:31 PM
Carol (Guest): Oh Ruth, you knowmhow to make me blush
Jul 27, 5:32 PM
SrSusan (Guest): I will be at Visitation Monastery Monte Maria 12221 Bienvenue Road Rockville VA 23146 804 749 4885
Jul 27, 5:32 PM
Carol (Guest): We will be united in Christ each time we receive the Eucharist
Jul 27, 5:32 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Yes !
Jul 27, 5:32 PM
Simone (Guest): Sister… we all stand here in front of you – taking a bow – with love
Jul 27, 5:32 PM
Dawn (Guest): But I am full of joy for you in this new journey, or deepening journeybye
ul 27, 5:34 PM
Simone (Guest): LOL.. a little bit more in Canada Sister
Jul 27, 5:34 PM
SrSusan (Guest): Oh yes that’s why I put up the address
Jul 27, 5:34 PM
Carol (Guest): I remember two cent stamps
Jul 27, 5:34 PM
SrSusan (Guest): How much?
Jul 27, 5:34 PM
Simone (Guest): this is my new motto.. pen and paper and 78 cents.. Love it.. sounds refreshingly simple
ul 27, 5:35 PMDawn (Guest): The Cloistered sisters , the pillars in our church right now we need…
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